PLEASE HELP !! Filing Form I-864 For joint sponsor

[STA]

Hi,

I have decided to use my dad as a joint sponsor for my wife and step daughter after receiving a mail saying I did not meet the 125% poverty guideline.

In the mail I received it was stated that :
File form I-864,Affidavit of Support (revision date 03/22/13) and the form I printed out shows that The form Expires 03/31/2015,did I print the correct and current version of the Form I-864?

Also does my joint sponsor have to file I-864 or 1864A?


1. Do I need to file and submit another form I-864 affidavit of support form and send along with that of my joint sponsor or am I only to send the Form for only my joint sponsor.

2. In the Part 3 of the form,where it says I am sponsoring the principal immigrant
Do I check NO since he is only a joint sponsor ?

3. The Part 5 of the form where it says sponsor's household size,do I still need to fill out my same information which I already filled out in my I-864 or does it have to do with the household size of my joint sponsor? I am kind of confused



Thanks so much

[MaryH]

I think USCIS mentioned, the specific date, because it's expired, but can be used. Applicants will be instructed, when to cease, once an updated form is available.

Both the Sponsor and the Joint Sponsor should file, the I-864 (separately)

Both the Sponsor and the Joint sponsor, should, mark YES.

Both Sponsor and the Joint Sponsor, should count your HOUSEHOLD, SEPARATELY, and fill in that number on their individual form.

By USCIS Law, you are both responsible for the Beneficiary.

Good luck!!!

[STA]

I think USCIS mentioned, the specific date, because it's expired, but can be used. Applicants will be instructed, when to cease, once an updated form is available.

Both the Sponsor and the Joint Sponsor should file, the I-864 (separately)

Both the Sponsor and the Joint sponsor, should, mark YES.

Both Sponsor and the Joint Sponsor, should count your HOUSEHOLD, SEPARATELY, and fill in that number on their individual form.

By USCIS Law, you are both responsible for the Beneficiary.

Good luck!!!

THANK YOU SO MUCH MARY for responding to my question I really appreciate it.i have already filed I-864 before but got a letter saying I did not meet the poverty guideline,so I am using my dad as a joint sponsor and was confused if I had to file another Form I-864 again along with that of my joint sponsor or if I only needed to send the I-864 for that of the joint sponsor .

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I think USCIS mentioned, the specific date, because it's expired, but can be used. Applicants will be instructed, when to cease, once an updated form is available.

Both the Sponsor and the Joint Sponsor should file, the I-864 (separately)

Both the Sponsor and the Joint sponsor, should, mark YES.

Both Sponsor and the Joint Sponsor, should count your HOUSEHOLD, SEPARATELY, and fill in that number on their individual form.

By USCIS Law, you are both responsible for the Beneficiary.

Good luck!!!

THANK YOU SO SO MUCH

[MaryH]

You are welcome.
Just to be on the safe side, go ahead and do over your I-864 and send in both.

Double check all you are sending, by reading up on the Instructions. All the best!!

[STA]

You are welcome.
Just to be on the safe side, go ahead and do over your I-864 and send in both.

Double check all you are sending, by reading up on the Instructions. All the best!!

OK I WILL....thanks again Mary,I really appreciate it.

[STA]

You are welcome.
Just to be on the safe side, go ahead and do over your I-864 and send in both.

Double check all you are sending, by reading up on the Instructions. All the best!!

Hi Mary,

Please I need your advice,so I have a joint sponsor who is my dad (88years old),in the RFE I recieved they asked for proof of citizenship. He said he doesn't have birth certificate,he was born in the 1920s,I am confused what can he show as proof of citizenship.do you think they will overlook it because of his age? We are all US citizens .
I have my birth certificate showing him as my dad in it,do you think it will help?

Part 3 number 2 & 2a i filed a separate petition for my 10 year step daughter and separate affidavit of support for her too,so do we need to fill out questions 2 & 2a on the form or should we leave it and put her as principal immigrant in a different form..
We are filing 2 separate form for wife and daughter.


Thanks

[MaryH]

Does your father lost his birth certificate or he didn't have one? You may need to contact the hospital where he was born, for any records or you may need to have Notarized Affidavits, by relatives/friends/neighborhood, persons who knew of his birth to try and get one. If there was one, you could check the Courts' Department of Records to try and get a copy. If NOT, and your dad have a USA Passport, that can be used as proof of citizenship.

You mentioned that, you filled the mother and daughter's Documents, separately but you should file them together, with separate Forms, and one joint sponsor, if that person's income can cover all members of the family. Yes, the mother would be the principal immigrant and your daughter would be listed on the form as well as an immigrant too.
So do not separate the files, file under one umbrella as a family and each having separate I-130 and separate I-485 etc.

[MaryH]

Yes, both mother and daughter would have principal immigrant on their respective forms.
Not realising it's a RFE, therefore, if you are not able to get some form of citizenship, in the allotted time for your dad, you may need to get a new Joint Sponsor. Good luck!!

[STA]

Does your father lost his birth certificate or he didn't have one? You may need to contact the hospital where he was born, for any records or you may need to have Notarized Affidavits, by relatives/friends/neighborhood, persons who knew of his birth to try and get one. If there was one, you could check the Courts' Department of Records to try and get a copy. If NOT, and your dad have a USA Passport, that can be used as proof of citizenship.

You mentioned that, you filled the mother and daughter's Documents, separately but you should file them together, with separate Forms, and one joint sponsor, if that person's income can cover all members of the family. Yes, the mother would be the principal immigrant and your daughter would be listed on the form as well as an immigrant too.
So do not separate the files, file under one umbrella as a family and each having separate I-130 and separate I-485 etc.

Thank you so much Mary for your response,my dad misplace his birth certificate,so will need to reorder it.
i filed both my wife and daughter together but separate forms I-30 etc ,I was only confused that if I mention my wife as principal immigrant in one form do I need to mention daughter as family member again,or just my wife on that affidavit form and then mention my daughter as principal immigrant in her own separate affidavit form.
In the part 3 question 2 it says do not include any relative listed on a separate visa petition.

In part 6 (sponsors income and employment ) does my joint sponsor need to include my income in that section.?since I am the petition sponsor and did not meet the guideline requirement and also since I am included in the house hold size.
Or does he need to ignore that part and just include his income which exceeds the poverty guideline?

I really appreciate your time and quick response to my messages .
Thanks once again

[MaryH]

Part 6, I-864
You being the sponsor must file a I-864 and your Joint sponsor, your dad, should fill out an I-864, also. Since your dad's income can cover all in the family, submit all his work information, 6 months paystubs etc. You do not need to submit your income on his I-864. Just list it on your I-864, and he list his income on hisI-864.
In part 3, tick 1 and 2 and in 2a. You list your step daughter and her information. Have your dad do the same on his remember you are both responsible legally for both not just your father. His money and you as the Petitioner.

[MaryH]

I'm truly hoping, u understand my jumbled sentences but if u don't, feel free to say.
Let me explain another way: In both you and your dad's I-864, your wife should be listed as the principal immigrant and your step-daughter, on both forms listed ad the family member in 2a in Part 3. You both should also, on your individual I-864, Part 3 #1 tick yes and for # 2. tick the box. Then at 2a. fill in step daughter's Name & relationship (daughter) to the principal immigrant.

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In Part 6, put NOTHING for you on your dad's I-864 and vise versa.
Your form has yourbinfo and your wife and daughter.
His form had his info. Your wife and your step daughter.
Just trying to make myself a little clearer.

[STA]

I'm truly hoping, u understand my jumbled sentences but if u don't, feel free to say.
Let me explain another way: In both you and your dad's I-864, your wife should be listed as the principal immigrant and your step-daughter, on both forms listed ad the family member in 2a in Part 3. You both should also, on your individual I-864, Part 3 #1 tick yes and for # 2. tick the box. Then at 2a. fill in step daughter's Name & relationship (daughter) to the principal immigrant.

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In Part 6, put NOTHING for you on your dad's I-864 and vise versa.
Your form has yourbinfo and your wife and daughter.
His form had his info. Your wife and your step daughter.
Just trying to make myself a little clearer.

Hi Mary thanks again for your response,thank you so so much for all the efforts you put in here to just to make me understand .

I understand what you mean,but what I did is my wife has separate affidavit form and my step daughter also has a separate affidavit form too.we received 2 RFE letters one for mother and daughter,so my wife has 2 forms mine and dad joint sponsor,then my step-daughter also has 2 forms mine and joint sponsor too.
We got 2 RFE in both their names that was why I asked that do I still need to mention daughter as family member in her mum form ,because she also has an affidavit form in her name.i don't know if you understand me..lol😀
She has I-864 form with her as principal immigrant and mom with a separate I-864 form as principal immigrants too with both me as sponsor and my dad as joint-sponsor.
Mom and daughter had separate (2) I-130 forms with (1) I-485 form and (2) separate I-864 forms etc all filed together as a package at the same time,so they recieved (2) RFE in their names .

Thats why I am asking in wife I-864 she is principal immigrant,so do I still need to mention daughter as family member again,she has a separate I-864 with her being principal immigrant on it too. Part 2 states do not include any relative listed on a separate visa petition,and like I told u she has a separate I-130
What I did is wife principal immigrant on one form and daughter principal immigrant on a separate form meaning sponsoring 1 person on a form each .
Do you understand

One more thing,my dad is RETIRED

[MaryH]

Yes, I understand you, but that's just how I would have done it. Both having the mother as the principal immigrant and the daughter listed as the family member, on both I-864. They are both being sponsored by you and your dad.

Your dad being retired doesn't matter, u said his income covers you all, but I'm not sure if you mentioned what the RFE is for. What did USCIS, asked for?

[MaryH]

Not seeing the actual documents can be hard on my mind. I'm no chicken. Lol and battles health condition and is disabled, so see with me. I just like helping people.
However, yes, I re-read your post, was it just proof of your dad's citizenship they wanted?

[STA]

Yes, I understand you, but that's just how I would have done it. Both having the mother as the principal immigrant and the daughter listed as the family member, on both I-864. They are both being sponsored by you and your dad.

Your dad being retired doesn't matter, u said his income covers you all, but I'm not sure if you mentioned what the RFE is for. What did USCIS, asked for?

Yes Mary my dad's income covers us all and the RFE is that my income did not meet the required poverty guideline,so I needed a joint sponsor.

And if I write it as mother as the principal immigrant and daughter family member which means part 3 number 7 will be total number of immigrants being sponsored on the form will be 2

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Not seeing the actual documents can be hard on my mind. I'm no chicken. Lol and battles health condition and is disabled, so see with me. I just like helping people.
However, yes, I re-read your post, was it just proof of your dad's citizenship they wanted?

Lol ..I really appreciate your help you are so so kind