Daca/immigrants support

[Standing]

Is there a forum here in regards to DACA being rescinded?
For all IMMIGRANTS, we need to bond together and fight for ourselves, our families, our friends and those that's afraid and unable to fight for themselves.

DACA ALERT!!!!!! DACA ALERT!!!!!!

I have a crazy but great idea on how we can achieve making a significant difference for all DREAMERS out there... this is going to be something that will only work if ALL 800,000 of us do it together, we can show everyone how much of an impact we make in this economy & this country overall!!! I want to make a change, I want to be able to say I made a difference for something, fighting for DACA or permanent residency in a country that I've spent 20 years of my life in anyway 😔 let's all do this together, it's completely legal and SUPER simple but i believe it can have a great effect ONLY if all 800,000 of us actually do it & all others that support DACA as well!!!

Okay plain and simple, what if we all withdrew all our funds from the bank on the same day? 800,000 people withdrawing $1 is $800,000 dollars gone from the banks in one day!! now I know that everyone has more than just one dollar, do you know how much money that would be? how would this affect the US banking system? This is exactly whats going to happen anyway right? we can all get deported at any time so either way, taking all your money out of the bank is the smartest thing to do because the bank won't go with you when you have to go back to your country, I've heard a lot of people say "cash is king" well the US is always worried about profit and money, so let's show them how much money they would be losing if we just take ALL our funds out of their banks!!! this would be our way of protesting per say except we can all still continue to work and feed our families until a decision is finally made! but they HAVE to see the impact or it won't work, we also have to keep writing letters and calling our senators so they can get involved, we can reach out to everyone, we DESERVE to be here just like everyone else, let's fight!!! I challenge every single one of you to join me, all you have to do is take all your money out of the bank on the same day, one day! FRIDAY OCTOBER 13th, 2017 #DREAMERSFIGHTBACK

#DACA #DREAMERS #IMMIGRATION #SAVEDACA #LETSKEEPFIGHTING #FRIDAYTHE13TH

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[mustang85635]

lol dude what are you talking about, 800.000 USD is like nothing for any bank or credit union in the US. even if it was 8mil or 80mil do you know the revenue of all the major banks and also its not like everyone is banking with the same bank.

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There is thirteen trillion dollars of deposits in FDIC-insured institutions alone, without counting assets in credit unions or brokerage accounts

Eight hundred thousand people have zero chance of moving the needle on that, unless you think these eight hundred thousand people can collectively come up with one hundred thousand dollars each. That's about 0.60% of commercial bank deposits

As an agent of change, money is a useful tool for those who have plenty of it. Money in modest amounts has little capacity to effect change

What eight hundred thousand people can do to effect change is to influence citizens to vote. Eight hundred thousand people can influence ten people who can each influence ten people. That's eighty million energized voters in a country with two hundred million registered voters

How can these eight hundred thousand people have any credibility among citizens if they are seen unlawfully present, and how are they are going to mobilize and evangelize to citizens if they'll be deported over the next few years? Understandably, they have little influence on our laws being unlawfully present in a foreign land. If DACA recipients want to change the law of this land, they are going to have to stay in this land and make this land their land

Their focus needs to be gaining legal status, then naturalizing as US citizens, all while acquiring the skills to influence voters and grow grassroots campaigns. They have the privilege of having been granted DACA, something five million other people who entered without inspection can only dream about. They can obtain Advance Parole, then return to the United States, entering with inspection. They can then - immediately or sometime years in the future - adjust their status to that of a permanent resident. They won't need a hardship waiver (difficult for young healthy couples). They won't need to leave their home and spend time in a country that is foreign (and possibly hostile) to them. Three years later, they can naturalize as US citizens. The worst thing DACA recipients can do is squander their opportunity to get on this pathway to legalization. If they do, they may eventually be removed from the United States, and will have little influence over the laws of a country that is not theirs

"dreamers fight back"??

They can't fight back with money, they don't have enough to make a difference
They can't fight back through the courts, they don't have the law on their side
They can't fight through the ballot box, unless and until they become US citizens
They can't fight back through influence, unless they find a way to avoid to be removed, and unless they find a way to be peers with US citizens

[mustang85635]

They have the privilege of having been granted DACA, something five million other people who entered without inspection can only dream about. They can obtain Advance Parole, then return to the United States, entering with inspection. They can then - immediately or sometime years in the future - adjust their status to that of a permanent resident.

Actually Trump cancelled the right for DACA recipients to apply for Advance Parole effective immediately. And using it right now would be very ballsy .

[inadmissible]

That sucks

Every DACA recipient should have had it and should have used it as soon as they could. They should have treated the opportunity like the blessing it was (a sort of 245i part 2), and assumed it would disappear at moments notice

They day was going to come that it would go away. Looks like that day has come

[Walbrzyszanka21]

That sucks

Every DACA recipient should have had it and should have used it as soon as they could. They should have treated the opportunity like the blessing it was (a sort of 245i part 2), and assumed it would disappear at moments notice

They day was going to come that it would go away. Looks like that day has come

You also weren't granted it as soon as you got DACA. You had to apply for it, wait and expect it at any moment since they do not give you a heads up. Also, it wasn't free. I never took advantage of it because I did not want to take the risk.

[inadmissible]

You also weren't granted it as soon as you got DACA. You had to apply for it, wait and expect it at any moment since they do not give you a heads up. Also, it wasn't free. I never took advantage of it because I did not want to take the risk.

You didn't need it because you had entered with inspection, and were always entitled to adjust your status to that of a permanent resident upon becoming a beneficiary of a immediate relative immigrant petitions

The DACA recipients who should have obtained it are those who entered without inspection, who would not eligible for adjustment of status even if they became beneficiaries of immediate relative immigrant petitions

[Walbrzyszanka21]

You didn't need it because you had entered with inspection, and were always entitled to adjust your status to that of a permanent resident upon becoming a beneficiary of a immediate relative immigrant petitions

The DACA recipients who should have obtained it are those who entered without inspection, who would not eligible for adjustment of status even if they became beneficiaries of immediate relative immigrant petitions

I did need it. I wasn't married in 2012. So yes I did need DACA if I wanted to work. And unfortunately, I was not entitled to anything until April of this year since nobody was a US citizen or permanent resident in my immediate family. DACA is not only for those who entered without inspection. There are requirements which I met. Could I have gone back to my country and tried for a Visa? Maybe but if I did not get it, then I would have been denied re-entry to the US for up to 10 years.

[inadmissible]

You needed DACA to work. You didn't need DACA or DACA AP in order to adjust status

There are many people who entered without inspection who need DACA AP in order to adjust status

You are not one of them

[newacct]

Every DACA recipient should have had it and should have used it as soon as they could.

Not everyone qualified though; you needed a humanitarian reason.

[Walbrzyszanka21]

You needed DACA to work. You didn't need DACA or DACA AP in order to adjust status

There are many people who entered without inspection who need DACA AP in order to adjust status

You are not one of them

I am not sure how it works but DACA has no path to permanent residency or citizenship UNLESS, you decide, on your own risk, to go back to your country and apply for a Visa. Again, they may or may not have you in the system, meaning that you applied for a Visa and left but never came back.

Not trying to be disrespectful but I am just sharing based off of my story. DACA was never intended to make the recipients think that it will give them PR or citizenship.

[Evilex]

I'm pro daca but i honestly think you dreamers took your freedom for granted, had i been a dreamer i would've travel somewhere and travel back(fulfilled requirement of legal entry) and apply for i130 i485 as soon as i can, many of you had the chance to do so, not everyone but many and yet most didn't even try, hopefully none of you gets deported i wish you best of luck.

[Walbrzyszanka21]

I'm pro daca but i honestly think you dreamers took your freedom for granted, had i been a dreamer i would've travel somewhere and travel back(fulfilled requirement of legal entry) and apply for i130 i485 as soon as i can, many of you had the chance to do so, not everyone but many and yet most didn't even try, hopefully none of you gets deported i wish you best of luck.

Can you provide the source that states that DACA recipients can use the DACA and AP for AOS? I am just curious because this is what I found online from a lawyer's website:

Important Cautions

Here are a few crucial things to know about Advance Parole.

Having Advance Parole granted does not mean you are guaranteed permission to re-enter the U.S. -- it just means that you haven't abandoned your Adjustment of Status application.
Until 2012, Advance Parole would not help you return if you had been living unlawfully in the United States -- most likely because you overstayed the expiration date on your visa -- then left the country. Under the immigration laws' grounds of inadmissibility, people who had lived unlawfully in the United States for more than 180 days may be prevented from reentering for three years. Those who lived here unlawfully for more than one year may be prevented from returning for ten years. Fortunately, a 2012 decision by the Board of Immigration Appeals (BIA) called Matter of Arabally and Yerabelly held that departures by people with pending adjustment applications and advance parole permission would NOT be considered to trigger these time bars.
If you are an asylee and return to the country from which you escaped then the U.S. might deny your Adjustment of Status application. The logic is that if you feel secure returning to a country from which you sought asylum then you are not really afraid of persecution there and do not need the protection of the United States.

Exceptions to the Advance Parole Requirements

There are exceptions to the Advance Parole requirement. If you hold a valid H-1, H-4, K-3, K-4, L-1, L-2, V-2, or V-3 visa or status then you may travel without Advance Parole approval. For example, if you are traveling for the same employer that your H or L visa was issued for then you don’t need Advance Parole. The H or L status must be valid and you must have evidence that you filed an Adjustment of Status application.

DACA recipients are people who long overstayed their Visas or entered without inspection. As the above states, if DACA recipients were to leave on AP, then they risk not being re-submitted to the US and banned re-entry for 3-10 years. I have heard of friends who did go back to their home country and I might be wrong but to me getting DACA was in no way a path to legal status.

Correct me if I am wrong.

[newacct]

I am not sure how it works but DACA has no path to permanent residency or citizenship UNLESS, you decide, on your own risk, to go back to your country and apply for a Visa.

DACA is not a path to permanent residency. Marriage to a US citizen is a path to permanent residency, and it doesn't require you to leave the country if you entered the US legally. And DACA AP was a path to get a legal entry if you don't already have one.

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Can you provide the source that states that DACA recipients can use the DACA and AP for AOS? I am just curious because this is what I found online from a lawyer's website:

Important Cautions

Here are a few crucial things to know about Advance Parole.

Having Advance Parole granted does not mean you are guaranteed permission to re-enter the U.S. -- it just means that you haven't abandoned your Adjustment of Status application.
Until 2012, Advance Parole would not help you return if you had been living unlawfully in the United States -- most likely because you overstayed the expiration date on your visa -- then left the country. Under the immigration laws' grounds of inadmissibility, people who had lived unlawfully in the United States for more than 180 days may be prevented from reentering for three years. Those who lived here unlawfully for more than one year may be prevented from returning for ten years. Fortunately, a 2012 decision by the Board of Immigration Appeals (BIA) called Matter of Arabally and Yerabelly held that departures by people with pending adjustment applications and advance parole permission would NOT be considered to trigger these time bars.
If you are an asylee and return to the country from which you escaped then the U.S. might deny your Adjustment of Status application. The logic is that if you feel secure returning to a country from which you sought asylum then you are not really afraid of persecution there and do not need the protection of the United States.

Exceptions to the Advance Parole Requirements

There are exceptions to the Advance Parole requirement. If you hold a valid H-1, H-4, K-3, K-4, L-1, L-2, V-2, or V-3 visa or status then you may travel without Advance Parole approval. For example, if you are traveling for the same employer that your H or L visa was issued for then you don’t need Advance Parole. The H or L status must be valid and you must have evidence that you filed an Adjustment of Status application.

DACA recipients are people who long overstayed their Visas or entered without inspection. As the above states, if DACA recipients were to leave on AP, then they risk not being re-submitted to the US and banned re-entry for 3-10 years. I have heard of friends who did go back to their home country and I might be wrong but to me getting DACA was in no way a path to legal status.

Correct me if I am wrong.

The above does not state "if DACA recipients were to leave on AP, then they risk not being re-submitted to the US and banned re-entry for 3-10 years". In fact, it says the opposite -- leaving the US on AP does not trigger the ban.

[Walbrzyszanka21]

DACA is not a path to permanent residency. Marriage to a US citizen is a path to permanent residency, and it doesn't require you to leave the country if you entered the US legally. And DACA AP was a path to get a legal entry if you don't already have one.

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The above does not state "if DACA recipients were to leave on AP, then they risk not being re-submitted to the US and banned re-entry for 3-10 years". In fact, it says the opposite -- leaving the US on AP does not trigger the ban.

Okay well that answers my question. I never really thought of it as a way to get a legal entry. And yes I know that I did not need to leave the country for AOS. I personally never took advantage of AP because I felt it was too high of a risk. And even though I miss my country since I haven't seen it for over 16 years, I had to immediate need to go back there. Just my own experience.