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[UScitizenFilingforspouse]

thank you for your response, I feel happy reading from you... A ll I needed right now is encouragement and advice from people who has gone through similar or same case... bellow are documents I send with my AOS package....

my wife affidavit of support and owe income tax
my uncle affidavit of support and his income tax
apartment lease agreement ( myself and my wife sign in it )
copy of my divorce letter from previous marriage
copy of my birth certificate and my wife
cable bill that has my name and my wife name on it
About five copies of our wedding pictures
marriage certificate and other forms..... all these are those I submitted in my package... bellow are documents I went with on the interview day


original marriage certificate.
original birth certificate
proof of joint account ( my wife name was not reflecting on it but we have letter from the bank to back it up )
three months statement of account.. joint account
debit cards from joint account
credit card with same name
cable utitlity bill
joint income tax 2017
life insurance
pay slip ( she didn't check or ask for it though )
letter from my present employer


please I need advice from anyone with same or similar case..... I don't understand what is going on with them because I didn't get no update nor text messages ..

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[Chicago1978]

thank you for your response, I feel happy reading from you... A ll I needed right now is encouragement and advice from people who has gone through similar or same case... bellow are documents I send with my AOS package....

my wife affidavit of support and owe income tax
my uncle affidavit of support and his income tax
apartment lease agreement ( myself and my wife sign in it )
copy of my divorce letter from previous marriage
copy of my birth certificate and my wife
cable bill that has my name and my wife name on it
About five copies of our wedding pictures
marriage certificate and other forms..... all these are those I submitted in my package... bellow are documents I went with on the interview day


original marriage certificate.
original birth certificate
proof of joint account ( my wife name was not reflecting on it but we have letter from the bank to back it up )
three months statement of account.. joint account
debit cards from joint account
credit card with same name
cable utitlity bill
joint income tax 2017
life insurance
pay slip ( she didn't check or ask for it though )
letter from my present employer


please I need advice from anyone with same or similar case..... I don't understand what is going on with them because I didn't get no update nor text messages ..

Hi, I just wanted to ask, Does it show in your credit card statements that they are being used a lot? I've heard some stories from people where they were questioned about the usage of their credit cards or debit cards. (Not being used enough)
For instance, if utility bills aren't paid using credit or debit cards, they question those kind of stuff or not enough money is being deposited in your joint accounts.
In your case though, I think you provided more than enough evidence of a bona fide marriage so I wouldn't worry about it.
I wish you the best & I hope you get your Green Card in the mail already.

[UScitizenFilingforspouse]

Hi, I just wanted to ask, Does it show in your credit card statements that they are being used a lot? I've heard some stories from people where they were questioned about the usage of their credit cards or debit cards. (Not being used enough)
For instance, if utility bills aren't paid using credit or debit cards, they question those kind of stuff or not enough money is being deposited in your joint accounts.
In your case though, I think you provided more than enough evidence of a bona fide marriage so I wouldn't worry about it.
I wish you the best & I hope you get your Green Card in the mail already.

I agree with you. Olarjacobs will ultimately be fine. His experience begs the question whether front-loading all the evidence you have available, would have appeased the mind of the ISO, and perhaps the ISO would not have invited a second ISO to join in?
If you take a look at the evidence he submitted, only 3 items on the list are evidence of bona fide marriage. The rest are evidence that a legal marriage took place and was registered.

my wife affidavit of support and owe income tax
my uncle affidavit of support and his income tax
**** apartment lease agreement ( myself and my wife sign in it ) **** Bona fide marriage evidence ****
copy of my divorce letter from previous marriage
copy of my birth certificate and my wife
***cable bill that has my name and my wife name on it **** bona fide marriage evidence ****
**** About five copies of our wedding pictures*** bona fide marriage evidence ****
marriage certificate and other forms..... all these are those I submitted in my package... bellow are documents I went with on the interview day

The jury continues to be out on this whether to front-load or not. Attorneys to this day are still telling clients to just bring the evidence to the interview. However, the I-130 instructions say otherwise.

Page 3/12; "Evidence. At the time of filing, you must submit all evidence and supporting documentation listed in the General Requirements section of these Instructions. USCIS may issue a Notice of Intent to Deny (NOID) or a Denial Notice for
petitions filed without the required supporting evidence."

Page 7/12; NOTE: In addition to the required documentation listed above, you should submit one or more of the
following types of documentation that may prove you have a bona fide marriage:
(1) Documentation showing joint ownership of property;
(2) A lease showing joint tenancy of a common residence, meaning you both live at the same address together;
(3) Documentation showing that you and your spouse have combined your financial resources;
(4) Birth certificates of children born to you and your spouse together;
(5) Affidavits sworn to or affirmed by third parties having personal knowledge of the bona fides of the marital
relationship. Each affidavit must contain the full name and address of the person making the affidavit; date
and place of birth of the person making the affidavit; and complete information and details explaining how the
person acquired his or her knowledge of your marriage; or
(6) Any other relevant documentation to establish that there is an ongoing marital union

So all of THAT is expected to arrive with the I-130. In this case, I think front-loading would have set the stage for a smoother ride. The smirk/awkward smiling of one of the ISOs says he/she had already made up his/her mind. To their surprise, though, Olarjacobs produced everything they asked for.

The discussion has come up in the past in this forum. If you click on OP's profile, you'll see the forum never heard from member again.

https://www.immihelp.com/forum/showthread.php/159099-Submit-quot-bona-fide-quot-marriage-evidence-with-AOS-application-or-bring-to-interview

[iceman81]

I agree with you. Olarjacobs will ultimately be fine. His experience begs the question whether front-loading all the evidence you have available, would have appeased the mind of the ISO, and perhaps the ISO would not have invited a second ISO to join in?
If you take a look at the evidence he submitted, only 3 items on the list are evidence of bona fide marriage. The rest are evidence that a legal marriage took place and was registered.

my wife affidavit of support and owe income tax
my uncle affidavit of support and his income tax
**** apartment lease agreement ( myself and my wife sign in it ) **** Bona fide marriage evidence ****
copy of my divorce letter from previous marriage
copy of my birth certificate and my wife
***cable bill that has my name and my wife name on it **** bona fide marriage evidence ****
**** About five copies of our wedding pictures*** bona fide marriage evidence ****
marriage certificate and other forms..... all these are those I submitted in my package... bellow are documents I went with on the interview day

The jury continues to be out on this whether to front-load or not. Attorneys to this day are still telling clients to just bring the evidence to the interview. However, the I-130 instructions say otherwise.

Page 3/12; "Evidence. At the time of filing, you must submit all evidence and supporting documentation listed in the General Requirements section of these Instructions. USCIS may issue a Notice of Intent to Deny (NOID) or a Denial Notice for
petitions filed without the required supporting evidence."

Page 7/12; NOTE: In addition to the required documentation listed above, you should submit one or more of the
following types of documentation that may prove you have a bona fide marriage:
(1) Documentation showing joint ownership of property;
(2) A lease showing joint tenancy of a common residence, meaning you both live at the same address together;
(3) Documentation showing that you and your spouse have combined your financial resources;
(4) Birth certificates of children born to you and your spouse together;
(5) Affidavits sworn to or affirmed by third parties having personal knowledge of the bona fides of the marital
relationship. Each affidavit must contain the full name and address of the person making the affidavit; date
and place of birth of the person making the affidavit; and complete information and details explaining how the
person acquired his or her knowledge of your marriage; or
(6) Any other relevant documentation to establish that there is an ongoing marital union

So all of THAT is expected to arrive with the I-130. In this case, I think front-loading would have set the stage for a smoother ride. The smirk/awkward smiling of one of the ISOs says he/she had already made up his/her mind. To their surprise, though, Olarjacobs produced everything they asked for.

The discussion has come up in the past in this forum. If you click on OP's profile, you'll see the forum never heard from member again.

https://www.immihelp.com/forum/showt...g-to-interview

Did you guys submit Affidavits sworn by third parties? Its weird that my lawyer didnt tell us to submit them with the packet.

[UScitizenFilingforspouse]

Hi, I just wanted to ask, Does it show in your credit card statements that they are being used a lot? I've heard some stories from people where they were questioned about the usage of their credit cards or debit cards. (Not being used enough)
For instance, if utility bills aren't paid using credit or debit cards, they question those kind of stuff or not enough money is being deposited in your joint accounts.
In your case though, I think you provided more than enough evidence of a bona fide marriage so I wouldn't worry about it.
I wish you the best & I hope you get your Green Card in the mail already.

I am guessing that if an ISO questions why a credit card is not being used enough, they might suspect fraud. It's easy to add someone to an account, request an additional card and never use it. We happen to use them often but mostly, to take advantage of rewards/miles, etc.
However, there are a couple cards that we rarely use; just in case something major happens and we can't get to a bank, so we would then use that. I think an ISO would have to see other flags in order for credit usage to stand out. IMHO.

[UScitizenFilingforspouse]

Did you guys submit Affidavits sworn by third parties? Its weird that my lawyer didnt tell us to submit them with the packet.

We knew that affidavits were a category on the list but did not include any. Didn't feel we needed to. We submitted a 13lb AOS package. So there was plenty of financial evidence and text messages from the day we met.
I wouldn't worry about not having submitted any. Affidavits are not weighed heavily. You can get them notarized to add a little bit more weight to them.
How many sworn affidavits do you think you would need to match the weight of 1 mortgage and being 100% beneficiary on each other's 401K and life insurance policy?
I'd say 20; from people who've met the couple through different venues, who don't necessarily know the couple that well but see them together often enough in the capacity of married husband/spouse. Some argue that an affidavit from say, the maintenance man in your building, or a tattoo artist/ or barber who knows of the couple as a married couple carries more weight than that of someone who knows the couple very well.
At the same token, if a couple doesn't have that much evidence of commingling of finances, then I would add additional affidavits to compensate for that.

[kaylip]

At the same token, if a couple doesn't have that much evidence of commingling of finances, then I would add additional affidavits to compensate for that.

That's what I did. I have 2 relatives who went through AOS and didn't do affidavits but had sufficient financial evidence. One relative was on every account, tax returns, utility bills etc but was still sent to a second interview. The other one had an easy interview with her lawyer and baby present. I think when the couple has a baby it's a quicker interview.

[UScitizenFilingforspouse]

That's what I did. I have 2 relatives who went through AOS and didn't do affidavits but had sufficient financial evidence. One relative was on every account, tax returns, utility bills etc but was still sent to a second interview. The other one had an easy interview with her lawyer and baby present. I think when the couple has a baby it's a quicker interview.

Yes, and it comes down to who's adjudicating your case. I read a thread on a different site of this guy whose neighbor is a higher up at the Vermont Service Center - Director, I think. And the gentleman said popping a child is not enough for him. He looks for medical records that have both names. If the kid is of school age, then expects to see school records that show involvement of both parents; especially if one is not the biological parent. He said he's never asked anyone about their spouse's toothbrush color BUT will every couple they doubt, to draw a sketch of their home's floor plan and where furniture and items are located.
Whereas other ISOs see a baby, and roll out the red carpet. So... I guess it's best to prepare for anything. (?)