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    The only request on our RFE was to send the most recent tax return of my spouse(the petitioner). Though we have already sent 3 years tax Return of a sponsor, because my spouse income did not meet the requirement.

    But we felt we should front load other evidences with this RFE request, because our lawyer did not attached any bona-fide marriage evidences, aside civil documents.
    We see this as an opportunity to send in several evidences, we have them lay down in the table of content.
    Kindly advise if this is okay.
    PD: 01/02/18
    4 NOA Form I-797C received :01/08/18
    Received biometrics appointment notice: 01/12/18
    Biometrics appointment: 01/29/18 (walk-in)
    InfoPas: SB field office 04/18/18
    Contact the congressman 04/20/18
    RFE received: 04/27/18
    RFE response :06/19/18
    Interview Scheduled notification 07/03/18
    AP approval notice :07/05/18
    EAD approval notice: 07/05/18
    SSN received in the mail 07/18/18
    Notice EAD being produce 07/19/18
    Interview Date: 08/07/18

    Field office San Bernardino

  • #2
    Originally posted by Emerald 2020 View Post
    The only request on our RFE was to send the most recent tax return of my spouse(the petitioner). Though we have already sent 3 years tax Return of a sponsor, because my spouse income did not meet the requirement.

    But we felt we should front load other evidences with this RFE request, because our lawyer did not attached any bona-fide marriage evidences, aside civil documents.
    We see this as an opportunity to send in several evidences, we have them lay down in the table of content.
    Kindly advise if this is okay.
    I am sorry you were misinformed by your lawyer. It happens. If you look through the threads, there are plenty of people who did not send much initially and within days, were able to strategize and craft incredible tables of contents along with convincing evidence of bona fide marriage. It's all about evidence that ties into or with other evidence. I like receipts for that. They're alibis. We can get into that later today. (I have to head out soon)

    Without an RFE, I would not even try. This is my personal non-legal opinion. You do have an RFE and can include additional things. It has to be perfect - error free - not confusing at all; so that whoever gets it in the mail room opens up your package and says "oh ok, this is the response to the RFE which asked for taxes. Here are the taxes. They just want me to add all this evidence to the I-130/I-485 that were already submitted".

    It has to be even more clear than it would have been if you had sent it with your I-130. You will need a table of contents for the whole packet. Then another one just for the evidence. See below.

    **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** ****
    This is in response to RFE bla bla bla. (..) Our initial submission of form I-130 Petition for alien relative did not include the required evidence of bona fide marriage. Please kindly accept the evidence of bona fide marriage we have included as part of our initial submission of form I-130/I-485.

    ***Here I am saying I-130/I-485 so that the clerk does not have to take apart the file. They probably still will do so but at least they'll understand you are asking ALL OF THIS goes with the rest of the file***

    (You can find your own tune and words here. It sounds redundant but it all needs to be spelled out. Remember, they don't have to accept it at this point.)

    Contents in exact order are as follows:
    1. RFE letter (1 page)
    2. Evidence requested in response to RFE: Most recent tax return of petitioner (59 pages)
    3. Evidence of bona fide marriage to be attached to Form I-130 Petition for alien relative/I-485 Application to register permanent residence or adjust status.. Receipt MSC12345968725 & MSC 123999999 (100 pages)
    - Refer to table of contents for detailed contents)

    **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** *
    Then on top of the table of contents a page with big words

    3. Evidence of bona fide marriage. Please attach to Form I-130 Petition for alien relative. Receipt MSC12345968725 (100 pages)


    **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** ***

    Then, next you will include the table of contents which should include a brief explanation of what each piece of evidence is proof of. Make it neat. Print in color. Use legal exhibit tab dividers.
    They do not have to accept it BUT I personally would feel bad throwing away something that clearly looks like someone lost several days of sleep putting it together. You will have to track it down yourself, though. You may or may not be able to confirm whether the stack reached its destination.

    Depending upon where you're supposed to mail your RFE response, this link may or may not be useful.

    "If applicants or their representatives have any specific cases where they believe something was lost by a Lockbox facility, please provide details by email to Lockbox Support at [email protected] and we will investigate."



    Most likely, this will work out but do not be crushed if it doesn't. Since luck is for fools. We leave nothing to chance. You will also make copies of everything you send, and will still bring it to the interview.

    I hope this helps. I have been active on several threads discussing how to put together a table of contents, posted mine and a really nice example that I found online - it's where I got the idea from. I did NOT invent the wheel.It was a gal from France who left nothing to chance or luck. Others took in the advice and came back with great stuff. Amazing ideas. There are so many ways to show your marriage is real. Thing is that because it's real we don't think of these things, but they're all over your home, your phone - everywhere.

    Folks who posted their table of contents are also very kind and helpful. Do not hesitate to ask anyone any questions.

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    • #3
      Thank you very much for this very detailed advise. I will follow it and info appreciate your time.
      thank you.
      PD: 01/02/18
      4 NOA Form I-797C received :01/08/18
      Received biometrics appointment notice: 01/12/18
      Biometrics appointment: 01/29/18 (walk-in)
      InfoPas: SB field office 04/18/18
      Contact the congressman 04/20/18
      RFE received: 04/27/18
      RFE response :06/19/18
      Interview Scheduled notification 07/03/18
      AP approval notice :07/05/18
      EAD approval notice: 07/05/18
      SSN received in the mail 07/18/18
      Notice EAD being produce 07/19/18
      Interview Date: 08/07/18

      Field office San Bernardino

      Comment


      • #4
        Originally posted by Emerald 2020 View Post
        Thank you very much for this very detailed advise. I will follow it and info appreciate your time.
        thank you.
        You are welcome! If this will make you feel more in control of the outcome of your case, then go for it. DO YOU. Don't do anyone else.

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        • #5
          Hello all,
          see below how I plan to arrange my response to the RFE request and loading evidences of bona-fide marriage with with.
          kindly comment and advise. Pleas look at the bona-fide marriage evidences and voice your opinion
          thank you.

          PART ONE:
          Response to RFE
          *Missing Form 1040 of 2016 tax return on Sponsor Petitioners' Form I -864submitted.
          *2017 Joint Tax return on the amendment form 1040X


          PART TWO:
          Bona-fide marriage Evidences

          Exhibit 1 - Evidence of Cohabitation
          * Copy of lease agreement listing Spouse Beneficiary & Petitioner as joint tenants at Street address, City, State and Zip Code
          *2017 CRP, Certificate of Rent Paid issued by Leasing Manager to Spouse Beneficiary and Petitioner.
          *Copy of email communication between tenant spouse beneficiary & Leasing Manager confirming the execution of the current lease.
          *Copy of email communication between tenant spouse beneficiary & Leasing Manager with references to Spouse petitioner on various issues.
          *Copies of Money Orders and Cashiers checks of rent paid with names of Petitioner and spouse beneficiary on it with stamped from the leasing office as receipts of payment.(several pages)
          *Correspondence email from Leasing Manager giving Petitioner & Spouse Beneficiary notice to enter unit.
          *Proof of joint email account

          Exhibit 2-
          Evidence of comingling of financial resources
          *Joint Checking Account (2)
          BoA
          Arrowhead Credit Union
          *Joint checking account statements
          *Arrowhead Credit Union Credit Card. With both the Petitioner and spouse beneficiary as a authorised users.
          *Arrowhead Credit Union transaction from Jan to April 2018
          *Target REDCard (debit card) for Petitioner and Spouse beneficiary. With joint checking account linked to it
          *Proof of money transfers for rent payment from Arrowhead Credit Unoin joint account
          *Evidence Joint Checking **** xxxx
          registered for online payments.


          Exhibit 3
          Evidence of Pension Savings and Life Insurance and Family Accident Life Insurance Benefits beneficiaries
          *Spouse beneficiary foreign pension deposit account listing the Petitioner as the next of kin. Screen shot
          *Several Emails from
          spouse beneficiary email account) with Pension Managers abroad requesting the change of next of kin to the Petitioner name.
          *Emails from:
          (Spouse beneficiary email account) and his first Attorney abroad who supposed to handled the assignment of preparing "Deed of Gift". With the petitioner as the major beneficiary.

          *Emails from:
          (Spouse beneficiary email account) and his second Attorney abroad who handled the assignment of preparing "Deed of Gift". With the petitioner as the major beneficiary.

          *Emails from:
          (Spouse beneficiary email account) and his Attorney abroad on
          Pension Managers and documents notarisation at the US Embassy, in that country .
          *US Embassy,abroad notarised "deed of gift" of the pension savings of the Spouse beneficiary with the Petitioner as a major beneficiary of the gift.

          *Spouse beneficiary Life Insurance policy with Petitioner as the beneficiary.

          *Petitioner's Life Insurance policy with the spouse beneficiary as the beneficiary.

          *Life Insurance policies for Petitioners' two daughters bought by the Petitioner and spouse beneficiary for them.

          *Family Accident Life Insurance policy that covers all of us. (Spouse beneficiary,Petitioner and our two daughters)

          *Several emails from spouse beneficiary and insurance broker- representing the interest of the family when life insurance policies were purchased for the Petitioner and our two daughters.

          *Several emails from spouse beneficiary when accidental life insurance was purchased for the family.

          *Some emails from spouse beneficiary and an insurance broker,when purchasing Life Insurance policy for self.

          *Payment of various insurance premiums from September 2017.Paid with Spouse Beneficiarys' Personal checking account **

          Exhibit 4
          Evidence of Receiving Mail at Same Address
          *Spouse Beneficiary checking account statement as evidence that Spouse Beneficiary has received mail at Street Address, City, State, Zip Code
          *Form I-797C,Notice of Action addressed to Petitioner and Spouse Beneficiary received at the street address, City, State and Zip Code
          *Copies of several mails delivered to both of us at the street address, City, State and Zip Code.

          Exhibit 5
          Evidence of having unrestricted access to each others mail through USPS informed delivery account.
          *USPS Informed delivery daily digest joint account with same email address:
          With both Petitioner and Spouse beneficiary having access to the email.

          Exhibit 6
          Evidence of Joint Gas Account
          *Name of Gas Company

          *Account and Bills in the name of Spouse beneficiary and Petitioner.
          *Copy of Gas bill
          Billing date July 2017 to May 2018.Displays Spouse Beneficiary & Petitioner as joint account holders.

          *Payment confirmation for Gas bill.
          Paid with Spouse Beneficiary's Personal checking account ****


          Exhibit 7
          Evidence of Electric Residential Service Account

          *Name of Electric Service Provider:
          *Account and Bills in the name of Petitioner
          *Online account user name:joint email address.

          *Monthly electric bills: Date July 2017 to May 2018
          *Payment of several electric bills from July 2017 to May 2018.Paid with Spouse Beneficiary's Personal checking account ****

          Exhibit 8
          Same Mobile phone carrier, with a family plan
          *Online account showing our mobile lines and plans
          *Payment of phone bills from Dec 2017 to May 2018.Paid with Spouse Beneficiary's Personal checking account ****


          Exhibit 9
          Emergency Contacts Information

          *Spouse beneficiary listed as one of the Emergency Contacts in the school record for the children (Petitioners' two daughters).


          Exhibit 10
          Vehicle joint ownership
          Car insurance

          Exhibit 11
          Evidence of Joint Memberships

          *Joint Amazon Prime Account -
          *Joint Sams Club membership
          *Joint Gym Membership


          Exhibit 12
          Affidavit of knowing, emails and mails received from friends and family members from US and abroad

          *Notarized Affidavit of knowing
          4 people

          *Emails from Spouse beneficiary and his family and friend in home country mentioning the Pettitioner.
          3 people

          *1st year wedding Anniversary Mails from friends received at our apartment address.


          Exhibit 13
          *Receipt and email confirmation of flower bought by spouse beneficiary for petitioners mother's burial (May 2017)
          *Receipt of our first piece of furniture -matrass in our names.

          Exhibit 14
          *Pictures
          PD: 01/02/18
          4 NOA Form I-797C received :01/08/18
          Received biometrics appointment notice: 01/12/18
          Biometrics appointment: 01/29/18 (walk-in)
          InfoPas: SB field office 04/18/18
          Contact the congressman 04/20/18
          RFE received: 04/27/18
          RFE response :06/19/18
          Interview Scheduled notification 07/03/18
          AP approval notice :07/05/18
          EAD approval notice: 07/05/18
          SSN received in the mail 07/18/18
          Notice EAD being produce 07/19/18
          Interview Date: 08/07/18

          Field office San Bernardino

          Comment


          • #6
            Originally posted by Emerald 2020 View Post
            Hello all,
            see below how I plan to arrange my response to the RFE request and loading evidences of bona-fide marriage with with.
            kindly comment and advise. Pleas look at the bona-fide marriage evidences and voice your opinion
            thank you.

            PART ONE:
            Response to RFE
            *Missing Form 1040 of 2016 tax return on Sponsor Petitioners' Form I -864submitted.
            *2017 Joint Tax return on the amendment form 1040X


            PART TWO:
            Bona-fide marriage Evidences

            Exhibit 1 - Evidence of Cohabitation
            * Copy of lease agreement listing Spouse Beneficiary & Petitioner as joint tenants at Street address, City, State and Zip Code
            *2017 CRP, Certificate of Rent Paid issued by Leasing Manager to Spouse Beneficiary and Petitioner.
            *Copy of email communication between tenant spouse beneficiary & Leasing Manager confirming the execution of the current lease.
            *Copy of email communication between tenant spouse beneficiary & Leasing Manager with references to Spouse petitioner on various issues.
            *Copies of Money Orders and Cashiers checks of rent paid with names of Petitioner and spouse beneficiary on it with stamped from the leasing office as receipts of payment.(several pages)
            *Correspondence email from Leasing Manager giving Petitioner & Spouse Beneficiary notice to enter unit.
            *Proof of joint email account

            Exhibit 2-
            Evidence of comingling of financial resources
            *Joint Checking Account (2)
            BoA
            Arrowhead Credit Union
            *Joint checking account statements
            *Arrowhead Credit Union Credit Card. With both the Petitioner and spouse beneficiary as a authorised users.
            *Arrowhead Credit Union transaction from Jan to April 2018
            *Target REDCard (debit card) for Petitioner and Spouse beneficiary. With joint checking account linked to it
            *Proof of money transfers for rent payment from Arrowhead Credit Unoin joint account
            *Evidence Joint Checking **** xxxx
            registered for online payments.


            Exhibit 3
            Evidence of Pension Savings and Life Insurance and Family Accident Life Insurance Benefits beneficiaries
            *Spouse beneficiary foreign pension deposit account listing the Petitioner as the next of kin. Screen shot
            *Several Emails from
            spouse beneficiary email account) with Pension Managers abroad requesting the change of next of kin to the Petitioner name.
            *Emails from:
            (Spouse beneficiary email account) and his first Attorney abroad who supposed to handled the assignment of preparing "Deed of Gift". With the petitioner as the major beneficiary.

            *Emails from:
            (Spouse beneficiary email account) and his second Attorney abroad who handled the assignment of preparing "Deed of Gift". With the petitioner as the major beneficiary.

            *Emails from:
            (Spouse beneficiary email account) and his Attorney abroad on
            Pension Managers and documents notarisation at the US Embassy, in that country .
            *US Embassy,abroad notarised "deed of gift" of the pension savings of the Spouse beneficiary with the Petitioner as a major beneficiary of the gift.

            *Spouse beneficiary Life Insurance policy with Petitioner as the beneficiary.

            *Petitioner's Life Insurance policy with the spouse beneficiary as the beneficiary.

            *Life Insurance policies for Petitioners' two daughters bought by the Petitioner and spouse beneficiary for them.

            *Family Accident Life Insurance policy that covers all of us. (Spouse beneficiary,Petitioner and our two daughters)

            *Several emails from spouse beneficiary and insurance broker- representing the interest of the family when life insurance policies were purchased for the Petitioner and our two daughters.

            *Several emails from spouse beneficiary when accidental life insurance was purchased for the family.

            *Some emails from spouse beneficiary and an insurance broker,when purchasing Life Insurance policy for self.

            *Payment of various insurance premiums from September 2017.Paid with Spouse Beneficiarys' Personal checking account **

            Exhibit 4
            Evidence of Receiving Mail at Same Address
            *Spouse Beneficiary checking account statement as evidence that Spouse Beneficiary has received mail at Street Address, City, State, Zip Code
            *Form I-797C,Notice of Action addressed to Petitioner and Spouse Beneficiary received at the street address, City, State and Zip Code
            *Copies of several mails delivered to both of us at the street address, City, State and Zip Code.

            Exhibit 5
            Evidence of having unrestricted access to each others mail through USPS informed delivery account.
            *USPS Informed delivery daily digest joint account with same email address:
            With both Petitioner and Spouse beneficiary having access to the email.

            Exhibit 6
            Evidence of Joint Gas Account
            *Name of Gas Company

            *Account and Bills in the name of Spouse beneficiary and Petitioner.
            *Copy of Gas bill
            Billing date July 2017 to May 2018.Displays Spouse Beneficiary & Petitioner as joint account holders.

            *Payment confirmation for Gas bill.
            Paid with Spouse Beneficiary's Personal checking account ****


            Exhibit 7
            Evidence of Electric Residential Service Account

            *Name of Electric Service Provider:
            *Account and Bills in the name of Petitioner
            *Online account user name:joint email address.

            *Monthly electric bills: Date July 2017 to May 2018
            *Payment of several electric bills from July 2017 to May 2018.Paid with Spouse Beneficiary's Personal checking account ****

            Exhibit 8
            Same Mobile phone carrier, with a family plan
            *Online account showing our mobile lines and plans
            *Payment of phone bills from Dec 2017 to May 2018.Paid with Spouse Beneficiary's Personal checking account ****


            Exhibit 9
            Emergency Contacts Information

            *Spouse beneficiary listed as one of the Emergency Contacts in the school record for the children (Petitioners' two daughters).


            Exhibit 10
            Vehicle joint ownership
            Car insurance

            Exhibit 11
            Evidence of Joint Memberships

            *Joint Amazon Prime Account -
            *Joint Sams Club membership
            *Joint Gym Membership


            Exhibit 12
            Affidavit of knowing, emails and mails received from friends and family members from US and abroad

            *Notarized Affidavit of knowing
            4 people

            *Emails from Spouse beneficiary and his family and friend in home country mentioning the Pettitioner.
            3 people

            *1st year wedding Anniversary Mails from friends received at our apartment address.


            Exhibit 13
            *Receipt and email confirmation of flower bought by spouse beneficiary for petitioners mother's burial (May 2017)
            *Receipt of our first piece of furniture -matrass in our names.

            Exhibit 14
            *Pictures
            This looks fantastic! GREAT WORK!!! Two hole puncher, ACCO fasteners and you're ready to go.

            All the best.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by UScitizenFilingforspouse View Post
              This looks fantastic! GREAT WORK!!! Two hole puncher, ACCO fasteners and you're ready to go.

              All the best.
              UScitizenFilingforspouse

              thank you Senior Member ,I appreciate.
              PD: 01/02/18
              4 NOA Form I-797C received :01/08/18
              Received biometrics appointment notice: 01/12/18
              Biometrics appointment: 01/29/18 (walk-in)
              InfoPas: SB field office 04/18/18
              Contact the congressman 04/20/18
              RFE received: 04/27/18
              RFE response :06/19/18
              Interview Scheduled notification 07/03/18
              AP approval notice :07/05/18
              EAD approval notice: 07/05/18
              SSN received in the mail 07/18/18
              Notice EAD being produce 07/19/18
              Interview Date: 08/07/18

              Field office San Bernardino

              Comment


              • #8
                Originally posted by Emerald 2020 View Post
                UScitizenFilingforspouse

                thank you Senior Member ,I appreciate.
                Emerald2020,
                Everyone becomes a Senior member after a month or so.

                Comment


                • #9
                  Just a couple of things. When printing evidence off the internet, include headers and footers in printer settings. That way the URL and date printed will display.

                  If you wanted to, you could include a timeline of your relationship and list major events. You could arrange the pictures according to that timeline. That timeline will come in handy for the interview.

                  Make sure to add a date, location and names of people to every picture.

                  Great job on going the extra mile and getting the affidavits notarized. While sworn affidavits are accepted, ultimately there?s no notary public to certify that the person who signed is who they say they are.

                  I would turn on notifications on all services and accounts to be sent to that joint email account. Set your phone numbers to receive notifications as well. Those text messages are evidence, as well.

                  I like how you added evidence of cohabitation from many different sources. Lease. Communications with landlord, cancelled checks, certificate of rent paid.

                  We printed account settings from our Sam?s club online account.

                  By the way, if you two go to the gym together and your gym online account shows your visits. You can print that Too.

                  I think you have plenty. Make sure you arrange it in a way that whoever gets it, does not even have to take it apart and just put it together with the rest.

                  I personally think you?ve done the right thing by leaving nothing to chance. One never knows how an ISO might react to a file that contains only civil documents and no evidence of bona fide marriage. You may or may not walk into an ambush. There?s no way to predict that. But then, why Gamble?

                  I would send this with a signature requirement. At least you?ll have a name.

                  Again, great job! And just in case keep copies of everything.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by UScitizenFilingforspouse View Post
                    Just a couple of things. When printing evidence off the internet, include headers and footers in printer settings. That way the URL and date printed will display.

                    If you wanted to, you could include a timeline of your relationship and list major events. You could arrange the pictures according to that timeline. That timeline will come in handy for the interview.

                    Make sure to add a date, location and names of people to every picture.

                    Great job on going the extra mile and getting the affidavits notarized. While sworn affidavits are accepted, ultimately there?s no notary public to certify that the person who signed is who they say they are.

                    I would turn on notifications on all services and accounts to be sent to that joint email account. Set your phone numbers to receive notifications as well. Those text messages are evidence, as well.

                    I like how you added evidence of cohabitation from many different sources. Lease. Communications with landlord, cancelled checks, certificate of rent paid.

                    We printed account settings from our Sam?s club online account.

                    By the way, if you two go to the gym together and your gym online account shows your visits. You can print that Too.

                    I think you have plenty. Make sure you arrange it in a way that whoever gets it, does not even have to take it apart and just put it together with the rest.

                    I personally think you?ve done the right thing by leaving nothing to chance. One never knows how an ISO might react to a file that contains only civil documents and no evidence of bona fide marriage. You may or may not walk into an ambush. There?s no way to predict that. But then, why Gamble?

                    I would send this with a signature requirement. At least you?ll have a name.

                    Again, great job! And just in case keep copies of everything.

                    Thank you very much,I will do as advised.
                    PD: 01/02/18
                    4 NOA Form I-797C received :01/08/18
                    Received biometrics appointment notice: 01/12/18
                    Biometrics appointment: 01/29/18 (walk-in)
                    InfoPas: SB field office 04/18/18
                    Contact the congressman 04/20/18
                    RFE received: 04/27/18
                    RFE response :06/19/18
                    Interview Scheduled notification 07/03/18
                    AP approval notice :07/05/18
                    EAD approval notice: 07/05/18
                    SSN received in the mail 07/18/18
                    Notice EAD being produce 07/19/18
                    Interview Date: 08/07/18

                    Field office San Bernardino

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Emerald 2020 View Post
                      Thank you very much,I will do as advised.
                      Were you able to add evidence of bona fide marriage with your RFE? I sent you a message but I am not sure it went out. I have had issues with my messages.

                      Keep us posted!

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