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    So as some may be aware if you're following the April filer's thread, my case has gone pretty quickly. We applied in April and I have an interview set for July 10th. As you can imagine, due to how quick it's moved, I haven't received my EAD/SSN etc, and assuming the interview goes well it's likely I am going to get the GC without having to get the EAD first.

    So my question is this. When we appear for the interview, what further evidence can we provide to show our relationship is bonafide. Obviously most people will show joint assets, joint bank accounts, lease agreements etc, but we don't have it. We live with wife's parents right now so we have a chance to save up to buy our own place, so therefore we have no lease with our names on and no bills in our names and the bank won't let me become a joint unless I have a SSN.

    The plan was that once I got the EAD and SSN and started working, we could open a joint bank account and rent somewhere together, all of which would provide them with our names together. But as it stands we are going to have to go to this interview without that.

    The only thing we can provide are more photos of us together and us with the family and more affidavits of support from friends and family. So I am wondering if this is going to be enough, will they take into account the interview happened quickly, before we could move forward and get more joint evidence.

    Any advice or any information from someone who's been in this situation would be appreciated!
    Marriage AOS - 2018

    4-10: Sent to Chicago Lockbox
    4-12: Arrived in Chicago
    4-14: Picked up by USCIS
    4-19: Email & text notifications received
    4-23: I-797 Receipts received
    4-27: Biometrics notice received
    5-10: Courtesy letter for I-693
    5-11: Biometrics completed
    6-04: Interview scheduled
    6-09: Received interview letter
    7-10: Interview complete & approved, status change to New Card being Produced
    7-13: Card was Mailed
    7-18: Green Card in Hand

  • #2
    Originally posted by Tezza View Post
    So as some may be aware if you're following the April filer's thread, my case has gone pretty quickly. We applied in April and I have an interview set for July 10th. As you can imagine, due to how quick it's moved, I haven't received my EAD/SSN etc, and assuming the interview goes well it's likely I am going to get the GC without having to get the EAD first.

    So my question is this. When we appear for the interview, what further evidence can we provide to show our relationship is bonafide. Obviously most people will show joint assets, joint bank accounts, lease agreements etc, but we don't have it. We live with wife's parents right now so we have a chance to save up to buy our own place, so therefore we have no lease with our names on and no bills in our names and the bank won't let me become a joint unless I have a SSN.

    The plan was that once I got the EAD and SSN and started working, we could open a joint bank account and rent somewhere together, all of which would provide them with our names together. But as it stands we are going to have to go to this interview without that.

    The only thing we can provide are more photos of us together and us with the family and more affidavits of support from friends and family. So I am wondering if this is going to be enough, will they take into account the interview happened quickly, before we could move forward and get more joint evidence.

    Any advice or any information from someone who's been in this situation would be appreciated!
    Can you get a notarized affidavit from your wife?s parents indicating that you two live with them? For how long? And that the purpose of living there is t save for your own marital home? Have both of you received mail in that address. You can use that if you have some.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by MissTz1982 View Post
      Can you get a notarized affidavit from your wife?s parents indicating that you two live with them? For how long? And that the purpose of living there is t save for your own marital home? Have both of you received mail in that address. You can use that if you have some.
      I was thinking of getting an affidavit from her mum with that exact information, so it's good to hear you think that's useful. In terms on mail, I was thinking that I could provide my USCIS correspondence which show my name and address and my wife provide a letter from her bank which will show her name and address as the same as mine. Do you think this would be good?
      Marriage AOS - 2018

      4-10: Sent to Chicago Lockbox
      4-12: Arrived in Chicago
      4-14: Picked up by USCIS
      4-19: Email & text notifications received
      4-23: I-797 Receipts received
      4-27: Biometrics notice received
      5-10: Courtesy letter for I-693
      5-11: Biometrics completed
      6-04: Interview scheduled
      6-09: Received interview letter
      7-10: Interview complete & approved, status change to New Card being Produced
      7-13: Card was Mailed
      7-18: Green Card in Hand

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Tezza View Post
        I was thinking of getting an affidavit from her mum with that exact information, so it's good to hear you think that's useful. In terms on mail, I was thinking that I could provide my USCIS correspondence which show my name and address and my wife provide a letter from her bank which will show her name and address as the same as mine. Do you think this would be good?
        Yes. That will be good. And make sure your mom writes down the address that you all live at so USCIS can compare it with the mail you mentioned from you and your wife. Also it?s ok to attach a utility bill with the affidavit even though it?s in your in law?s name. That will show the address matches your mail and your mother in law?s affidavit.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Tezza View Post
          So as some may be aware if you're following the April filer's thread, my case has gone pretty quickly. We applied in April and I have an interview set for July 10th. As you can imagine, due to how quick it's moved, I haven't received my EAD/SSN etc, and assuming the interview goes well it's likely I am going to get the GC without having to get the EAD first.

          So my question is this. When we appear for the interview, what further evidence can we provide to show our relationship is bonafide. Obviously most people will show joint assets, joint bank accounts, lease agreements etc, but we don't have it. We live with wife's parents right now so we have a chance to save up to buy our own place, so therefore we have no lease with our names on and no bills in our names and the bank won't let me become a joint unless I have a SSN.

          The plan was that once I got the EAD and SSN and started working, we could open a joint bank account and rent somewhere together, all of which would provide them with our names together. But as it stands we are going to have to go to this interview without that.

          The only thing we can provide are more photos of us together and us with the family and more affidavits of support from friends and family. So I am wondering if this is going to be enough, will they take into account the interview happened quickly, before we could move forward and get more joint evidence.

          Any advice or any information from someone who's been in this situation would be appreciated!
          There are 1000 ways to skin this cat. SSN is not a federal requirement to open a bank account. You will hit a wall with most banks if you try to open a joint account online, sure. But if you walk into the branch, most banks will open the account for you. All you need is your passport (unexpired). If the current bank won't do it, then go to a different bank.

          This thread contains tips on staging your evidence for the interview, ways to create evidence. https://www.immihelp.com/forum/showt...iew-tips/page2

          Your driver's license should reflect your current address. The biographical page on your passport should also list your current address.
          USPS informed delivery.
          Notarized affidavit of residence. See screenshot.
          If your wife is working, you should be listed as beneficiary on her health insurance, life insurance, and 401k.
          Advance health care directive - USCIS takes this document very seriously. You should designate each other as advocates to make health care decisions for each other; in the event that either one of you is not able to. It costs $20 to do one online. Then $5 to get it notarized at UPS.

          It's not a must, but it is best evidence. In the absence of "best evidence", you may submit secondary evidence that is consistent across the board, and shows the address on your lease as his addresss. Examples are:

          - voter registration *your US citizen spouse
          - Joint tax returns - federal & state
          - Any communication that shows your address from any federal agency, like the IRS, or state agency like the DMV
          - Have your spouse Get a replacement Social Security Card and show the mailing with your current address.
          - Driver's license
          - Passport biographical page - fill it out in pencil with your address.
          - Joint bills, *ask inlaws to add you both as authorized users on utility bills, then print screenshots of the online account that show you both as authorized users on the account.
          bank statements
          - Car registration, car insurance.
          - paystubs
          - Notarized affidavit. See screenshot. You can create your own on this site https://www.rocketlawyer.com/documen...residence.rl#/ You can make it sworn BUT "best evidence" is ideal in this case, and that would be a notarized affidavit from you and another one from your husband.

          In the absence of a lease, you have to get creative. Showing up empty handed because you don't have a SSN/EAD won't cut it.
          I would strongly recommend putting together a well organized table of contents that lists all your evidence, and include a brief explanation -in a sentence or two- of what the evidence is proof of. Do not just throw papers at USCIS and expect them to connect the dots for you.

          I would purchase Iexplorer, and download all your text messages - you can select those that are appropriate for USCIS eyes. pair those text messages with receipts. I would include communications from the time that you met; especially if you filed for AOS right after getting married.

          Receipts are alibis. They place you at a location and time. Pair up receipts with pictures.

          All the best.
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          Last edited by UScitizenFilingforspouse; 06-11-2018, 05:50 AM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by UScitizenFilingforspouse View Post
            There are 1000 ways to skin this cat. SSN is not a federal requirement to open a bank account. You will hit a wall with most banks if you try to open a joint account online, sure. But if you walk into the branch, most banks will open the account for you. All you need is your passport (unexpired). If the current bank won't do it, then go to a different bank.

            This thread contains tips on staging your evidence for the interview, ways to create evidence. https://www.immihelp.com/forum/showt...iew-tips/page2

            Your driver's license should reflect your current address. The biographical page on your passport should also list your current address.
            USPS informed delivery.
            Notarized affidavit of residence. See screenshot.
            If your wife is working, you should be listed as beneficiary on her health insurance, life insurance, and 401k.
            Advance health care directive - USCIS takes this document very seriously. You should designate each other as advocates to make health care decisions for each other; in the event that either one of you is not able to. It costs $20 to do one online. Then $5 to get it notarized at UPS.

            It's not a must, but it is best evidence. In the absence of "best evidence", you may submit secondary evidence that is consistent across the board, and shows the address on your lease as his addresss. Examples are:

            - voter registration *your US citizen spouse
            - Joint tax returns - federal & state
            - Any communication that shows your address from any federal agency, like the IRS, or state agency like the DMV
            - Have your spouse Get a replacement Social Security Card and show the mailing with your current address.
            - Driver's license
            - Passport biographical page - fill it out in pencil with your address.
            - Joint bills, *ask inlaws to add you both as authorized users on utility bills, then print screenshots of the online account that show you both as authorized users on the account.
            bank statements
            - Car registration, car insurance.
            - paystubs
            - Notarized affidavit. See screenshot. You can create your own on this site https://www.rocketlawyer.com/documen...residence.rl#/ You can make it sworn BUT "best evidence" is ideal in this case, and that would be a notarized affidavit from you and another one from your husband.

            In the absence of a lease, you have to get creative. Showing up empty handed because you don't have a SSN/EAD won't cut it.
            I would strongly recommend putting together a well organized table of contents that lists all your evidence, and include a brief explanation -in a sentence or two- of what the evidence is proof of. Do not just throw papers at USCIS and expect them to connect the dots for you.

            I would purchase Iexplorer, and download all your text messages - you can select those that are appropriate for USCIS eyes. pair those text messages with receipts. I would include communications from the time that you met; especially if you filed for AOS right after getting married.

            Receipts are alibis. They place you at a location and time. Pair up receipts with pictures.

            All the best.
            I'm a bit confused as to why you would make an affidavit about yourself? I understand if someone else does this for you but stating stuff about yourself under oath, wouldn't that be the same as to whatever you say during the interview?
            Or would the notary in this case in some way confirm that you live on that address?
            This is my opinion, not legal advice!

            AOS (c9) 2 USC 485/130/131/765
            122017 - PD
            012518 - Biometrics
            033118 - EAD/AP Combo card delivered
            062618 - "Case is Ready to Be Scheduled for An Interview"
            082618 - "we scheduled an interview for your Form I-485"
            090418 - 2nd we scheduled
            091018 - first interview canceled
            092118 - Request to reschedule int
            102318 - Renewal filed EAD/AP
            030819 - EAD/AP Card in hand
            040219 - We canceled your int
            040519 - Int sched
            051419 - Interview
            053119 - approved

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            • #7
              Originally posted by boogiewoogie View Post
              I'm a bit confused as to why you would make an affidavit about yourself? I understand if someone else does this for you but stating stuff about yourself under oath, wouldn't that be the same as to whatever you say during the interview?
              Or would the notary in this case in some way confirm that you live on that address?
              Affidavit of residence. Tezza lives with his spouse's parents. They do not have a lease. Therefore, a notarized affidavit of residence is appropriate. The notary confirms that you are in fact the one signing the affidavit.

              An affidavit of residence can also be used to get a state ID. Say that you just moved somewhere and need your ID ASAP.

              Here you go https://legaltemplates.net/form/affidavit-of-residence/

              I see your point, but these are used all the time. Sure, you can state your address at the interview, but then it becomes your word vs. the ISOs IF the interview is not recorded.
              For those who do not have a lease or much evidence of cohabitation, an affidavit of residence is useful. I have a lease and I will include a notarized affidavit of residence. The idea is to make it easy for the ISO to approve you.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by UScitizenFilingforspouse View Post
                Affidavit of residence. Tezza lives with his spouse's parents. They do not have a lease. Therefore, a notarized affidavit of residence is appropriate. The notary confirms that you are in fact the one signing the affidavit.

                An affidavit of residence can also be used to get a state ID. Say that you just moved somewhere and need your ID ASAP.

                Here you go https://legaltemplates.net/form/affidavit-of-residence/

                I see your point, but these are used all the time. Sure, you can state your address at the interview, but then it becomes your word vs. the ISOs IF the interview is not recorded.
                For those who do not have a lease or much evidence of cohabitation, an affidavit of residence is useful. I have a lease and I will include a notarized affidavit of residence. The idea is to make it easy for the ISO to approve you.
                Mmmh this sparks my curiousity. My husband can?t get on our lease because of his credit which he is trying to repair. Some of his important mail like IRS, business debit card come to our our address. And of course his Driver?s license has our address as well. I have pretty much collected every piece of his individual mail that come to our adress to include in the evidence package on top of whatever we have joint together.
                Should We also get his moralized affidavit to solidify his residence since he can?t be added to the lease?

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                Originally posted by MissTz1982 View Post
                Mmmh this sparks my curiousity. My husband can?t get on our lease because of his credit which he is trying to repair. Some of his important mail like IRS, business debit card come to our our address. And of course his Driver?s license has our address as well. I have pretty much collected every piece of his individual mail that come to our adress to include in the evidence package on top of whatever we have joint together.
                Should We also get his moralized affidavit to solidify his residence since he can?t be added to the lease?
                *notarized*

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by MissTz1982 View Post
                  Mmmh this sparks my curiousity. My husband can?t get on our lease because of his credit which he is trying to repair. Some of his important mail like IRS, business debit card come to our our address. And of course his Driver?s license has our address as well. I have pretty much collected every piece of his individual mail that come to our adress to include in the evidence package on top of whatever we have joint together.
                  Should We also get his moralized affidavit to solidify his residence since he can?t be added to the lease?

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                  *notarized*
                  Moralized. I pondered for a split second. LOL.

                  Again, this is just my humble opinion. I think adding the notarized affidavit of residence would only help reassure the ISO that your husband does in fact live with you, even though he is not on the lease. It's a legal document, and one can't turn around and say "oh a hacker forged my signature and I did not sign that sworn affidavit". USCIS takes notarized affidavits seriously.

                  It costs less than $5 to get the affidavit notarized at UPS. "Best evidence" for $5. I think it's a great deal.

                  The advance health care directive is also another document that USCIS takes seriously when presented as evidence of bona fide marriage.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by UScitizenFilingforspouse View Post
                    Affidavit of residence. Tezza lives with his spouse's parents. They do not have a lease. Therefore, a notarized affidavit of residence is appropriate. The notary confirms that you are in fact the one signing the affidavit.

                    An affidavit of residence can also be used to get a state ID. Say that you just moved somewhere and need your ID ASAP.

                    Here you go https://legaltemplates.net/form/affidavit-of-residence/

                    I see your point, but these are used all the time. Sure, you can state your address at the interview, but then it becomes your word vs. the ISOs IF the interview is not recorded.
                    For those who do not have a lease or much evidence of cohabitation, an affidavit of residence is useful. I have a lease and I will include a notarized affidavit of residence. The idea is to make it easy for the ISO to approve you.
                    I misread your template,i thought you were writing that you yourself resided somewhere and then signed it and that was it. Therefor i thought you were just writing affidavits about yourself.
                    I now see you are actually stating that others are living with you, as an example for the TS to use. It makes more sense now
                    This is my opinion, not legal advice!

                    AOS (c9) 2 USC 485/130/131/765
                    122017 - PD
                    012518 - Biometrics
                    033118 - EAD/AP Combo card delivered
                    062618 - "Case is Ready to Be Scheduled for An Interview"
                    082618 - "we scheduled an interview for your Form I-485"
                    090418 - 2nd we scheduled
                    091018 - first interview canceled
                    092118 - Request to reschedule int
                    102318 - Renewal filed EAD/AP
                    030819 - EAD/AP Card in hand
                    040219 - We canceled your int
                    040519 - Int sched
                    051419 - Interview
                    053119 - approved

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by boogiewoogie View Post
                      I misread your template,i thought you were writing that you yourself resided somewhere and then signed it and that was it. Therefor i thought you were just writing affidavits about yourself.
                      I now see you are actually stating that others are living with you, as an example for the TS to use. It makes more sense now
                      I will be submitting an affidavit from myself about my previous marriage AND another one from my former wife about my previous marriage, as well as an affidavit about my marriage, and state we entered the marriage in good faith. It might be overkill but I'm of the school of thought of showing you have nothing to hide. No matter how you toss this cat up in the air, THIS CAT (my AOS) will land on 4 paws. Nothing to hide.
                      Last edited by UScitizenFilingforspouse; 06-15-2018, 05:10 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Tezza View Post
                        I was thinking of getting an affidavit from her mum with that exact information, so it's good to hear you think that's useful. In terms on mail, I was thinking that I could provide my USCIS correspondence which show my name and address and my wife provide a letter from her bank which will show her name and address as the same as mine. Do you think this would be good?

                        Bud, I would get those affidavits notarized. Sworn affidavits are acceptable, but in this case you want "best evidence". And that would be a notarized affidavit.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Tezza View Post
                          the bank won't let me become a joint unless I have a SSN.
                          This is not true and the immigration agent knows this.

                          I would definitely open a joint bank account, do some activity such as deposits and withdrawals, and get at least one statement from it before your interview.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by UScitizenFilingforspouse View Post
                            Bud, I would get those affidavits notarized. Sworn affidavits are acceptable, but in this case you want "best evidence". And that would be a notarized affidavit.
                            I will definitely do that. I tried to send you a PM earlier but your storage capacity is over again!


                            Originally posted by Cheburashka View Post
                            This is not true and the immigration agent knows this.

                            I would definitely open a joint bank account, do some activity such as deposits and withdrawals, and get at least one statement from it before your interview.
                            Well I asked my wife's bank and some other banks in the area and none of them do add me as a joint without an SSN, so it's obviously true to the banks I have access to. I know there are some banks that will like the Bank of America, but local banks, at least here won't let me.
                            Marriage AOS - 2018

                            4-10: Sent to Chicago Lockbox
                            4-12: Arrived in Chicago
                            4-14: Picked up by USCIS
                            4-19: Email & text notifications received
                            4-23: I-797 Receipts received
                            4-27: Biometrics notice received
                            5-10: Courtesy letter for I-693
                            5-11: Biometrics completed
                            6-04: Interview scheduled
                            6-09: Received interview letter
                            7-10: Interview complete & approved, status change to New Card being Produced
                            7-13: Card was Mailed
                            7-18: Green Card in Hand

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Tezza View Post
                              Well I asked my wife's bank and some other banks in the area and none of them do add me as a joint without an SSN, so it's obviously true to the banks I have access to. I know there are some banks that will like the Bank of America, but local banks, at least here won't let me.
                              Dont ask. Just walk into a bank and ask to open an account.

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