reporting immigration fraud

[krypton9591]

Good afternoon everyone,

I am Krypton9591, Long time responder, first time poster. I'm curious to know if there is a way to report someone who committed immigration fraud around 25-30 years ago. And if it's even possible, is it even worth it this long after? I will expound by saying this has nothing to do with attempting to have a permanent resident(possibly a USC now) lose status, it's completely out of curiosity. Private messages or responses to this thread are both welcome. have a wonderful week.

[MissTz1982]

Good afternoon everyone,

I am Krypton9591, Long time responder, first time poster. I'm curious to know if there is a way to report someone who committed immigration fraud around 25-30 years ago. And if it's even possible, is it even worth it this long after? I will expound by saying this has nothing to do with attempting to have a permanent resident(possibly a USC now) lose status, it's completely out of curiosity. Private messages or responses to this thread are both welcome. have a wonderful week.

Mmmh you better not start something you don?t have evidence to back it up. Why are you doing this? Retaliation for something they did to you? And how do you know it was fraud? There is a lot of questions you need to ask yourself before you ruin someone?s life if they actually didn?t do anything wrong.

[kaylip]

Good afternoon everyone,

I am Krypton9591, Long time responder, first time poster. I'm curious to know if there is a way to report someone who committed immigration fraud around 25-30 years ago. And if it's even possible, is it even worth it this long after? I will expound by saying this has nothing to do with attempting to have a permanent resident(possibly a USC now) lose status, it's completely out of curiosity. Private messages or responses to this thread are both welcome. have a wonderful week.

The USCIS customer care services has an option for people to report fraud. I'm not sure if it's possible for the person to be investigated now if they have no criminal records or misdemeanors.

[krypton9591]

Mmmh you better not start something you don?t have evidence to back it up. Why are you doing this? Retaliation for something they did to you? And how do you know it was fraud? There is a lot of questions you need to ask yourself before you ruin someone?s life if they actually didn?t do anything wrong.

MissTz1982 I sent you a private message in response

The USCIS customer care services has an option for people to report fraud. I'm not sure if it's possible for the person to be investigated now if they have no criminal records or misdemeanors.

Kaylip, that's good to know! and from what I know the person(again not the green card recipient) has had a several run ins with the law with various levels of severity. so they could probably find something. however as far as I am aware this is the only instance of this type of thing the person in question has ever committed.

[cali2018]

ICE, also known as US Immigration and Customs Enforcement is tasked with investigating immigration fraud. You can make a report to ICE by calling 1-866-DHS-2-ICE or mailing a complaint to http://www.ice.gov/about/contact.htm. You may also want to consider mailing information directly to USCIS if you know the A number or the case number.

[Randomdude]

Honestly even the thought is ridiculous. Sounds like a vendetta against someone over something probably not worth it. Especially if this person is naturalized. You would have to have some very strong evidence and there's always a slight chance you can be called to testify. DeNaturalizing someone is not something they take lightly.

[azblk]

You can call the USCIS and voice your concerns. Unless you have evidence to back up your allegations they will remain just that allegations.

[cali2018]

They have lots of agents to solve this thing. Let OP do whatever they please.

[Randomdude]

They have lots of agents to solve this thing. Let OP do whatever they please.

No one is stopping the OP from doing anything. He's solicited thoughts and opinions. He can always do as he pleases.

[pantherwindy]

Good afternoon everyone,

I am Krypton9591, Long time responder, first time poster. I'm curious to know if there is a way to report someone who committed immigration fraud around 25-30 years ago. And if it's even possible, is it even worth it this long after? I will expound by saying this has nothing to do with attempting to have a permanent resident(possibly a USC now) lose status, it's completely out of curiosity. Private messages or responses to this thread are both welcome. have a wonderful week.

Just curious why you want to report someone? Is it a revenge or for justice?
Yea, you can report them through ICE or USCIS. But why do you want to involve in such mess....

[MissTz1982]

MissTz1982 I sent you a private message in response

Yes. tried to reply but got error message. See you need to have solid evidence against your FIL. It just can?t be he told me. It?s your world against theirs. If it?s something vengeful then you might want to rethink your decision. People have short marriages all the time so that doesn?t mean that his was fraud. Immigration will ask you a lot from you and like one person said they might ask you to testify.

Kaylip, that's good to know! and from what I know the person(again not the green card recipient) has had a several run ins with the law with various levels of severity. so they could probably find something. however as far as I am aware this is the only instance of this type of thing the person in question has ever committed.

Yes. tried to reply your message but got error message. See you need to have solid evidence against your FIL. It just can?t be he told me. It?s your world against theirs. If it?s something vengeful then you might want to rethink your decision. People have short marriages all the time so that doesn?t mean that his was fraud. Immigration will ask you a lot from you and like one person said they might ask you to testify.

[kaylip]

Yes. tried to reply your message but got error message. See you need to have solid evidence against your Father in Law. It just can?t be he told me. It?s your world against theirs. If it?s something vengeful then you might want to rethink your decision. People have short marriages all the time so that doesn?t mean that his was fraud. Immigration will ask you a lot from you and like one person said they might ask you to testify.

It's risky because I've read cases where the person that made the report arrested on suspicion and targeted for investigation into their own immigration status. So if the person making the report isn't a natural born American I wouldn't advise it, especially in this political climate!

[UScitizenFilingforspouse]

And this is why I strongly advise against discussing your case with anyone. This is why I never discussed anything with anyone. If I was ever asked, I would tell people my grandfather was American. I have a European last name. Thus, no one ever doubted my answer.

If you suspect marriage fraud happened, at this point, 30 years later, it would be unreasonable for USCIS/ICE to demand evidence of bona fide marriage from the subject - your father in law (?). The demand wouldn't hold up in court. My first marriage started 22 years ago. I used to know my former spouse's SSN. It might even be somewhere in my files but I certainly don't know it off the top of my head. I was a gentleman and shredded any sensitive information when we separated. If USCIS were to ask me for evidence of bona fide marriage from that marriage, I would honestly laugh hard. Am I really expected to keep a shrine of a marriage that did not work?

It would boil down to his word against yours. If he verbally expressed something related to his previous marriage, he could just say he was drunk or joking. It would end there. He was not under oath when he told you whatever he told you. That marriage underwent USCIS scrutiny already, and they were fine with it. Let sleeping dogs lie.

When people come to me for advice, I can tell some worry that I may wonder whether their marriage is real or not. It is none of my business. I personally barely have enough time to trim my beard and floss everyday. And I always do those two. I don't understand people who care about the inner workings of someone else's life. I'd rather read the Economist, listen to podcasts in French and German, and attempt to learn Indonesian/Malay since I met my husband.

Our focus should be on helping each other get through the immigration process; instead of turning on each other. There are children being kept in cages. Why are we even discussing this?

[krypton9591]

And this is why I strongly advise against discussing your case with anyone. This is why I never discussed anything with anyone. If I was ever asked, I would tell people my grandfather was American. I have a European last name. Thus, no one ever doubted my answer.

If you suspect marriage fraud happened, at this point, 30 years later, it would be unreasonable for USCIS/ICE to demand evidence of bona fide marriage from the subject - your father in law (?). The demand wouldn't hold up in court. My first marriage started 22 years ago. I used to know my former spouse's SSN. It might even be somewhere in my files but I certainly don't know it off the top of my head. I was a gentleman and shredded any sensitive information when we separated. If USCIS were to ask me for evidence of bona fide marriage from that marriage, I would honestly laugh hard. Am I really expected to keep a shrine of a marriage that did not work?

It would boil down to his word against yours. If he verbally expressed something related to his previous marriage, he could just say he was drunk or joking. It would end there. He was not under oath when he told you whatever he told you. That marriage underwent USCIS scrutiny already, and they were fine with it. Let sleeping dogs lie.

When people come to me for advice, I can tell some worry that I may wonder whether their marriage is real or not. It is none of my business. I personally barely have enough time to trim my beard and floss everyday. And I always do those two. I don't understand people who care about the inner workings of someone else's life. I'd rather read the Economist, listen to podcasts in French and German, and attempt to learn Indonesian/Malay since I met my husband.

Our focus should be on helping each other get through the immigration process; instead of turning on each other. There are children being kept in cages. Why are we even discussing this?

how does any of this besides the second and third paragraphs have anything to do with the question at hand? please stay on topic when responding.

[UScitizenFilingforspouse]

how does any of this besides the second and third paragraphs have anything to do with the question at hand? please stay on topic when responding.

Paragraph 1 = Because of people whose behavior is similar to yours, I never discussed my case with anyone. I kept it private. People will call ICE on their neighbors because they don't like them

Paragraph 4 = There are 1000 things you could be doing instead of minding someone else's business. Do you pay his mortgage? Mind your own business.

Paragraph 5 = Great Minds Discuss Ideas; Average Minds Discuss Events; Small Minds Discuss People

All the best,

USCFFS