Evidence of marriage soft copies of documents

[UScitizenFilingforspouse]

its not i751 you are going for... its i485 interview

since you think you know all without even attending interview... sure you can take stacks of docs and keep mindlessly searching for a doc when they are trying to interview you.

i am telling from my actual experience. till you have done your interview ... you can keep your comments to yourself.

I have already been to my own AOS interview. I am a naturalized US Citizen and had a very rough ride during my several interviews because I did not send in the evidence with my applications. My experience was similar to user helpmylife. I also had a rough ride for removal of conditions. All I am doing here is trying to help others avoid the experience I had and Help them understand what USCIS requires.

Up until recently attorneys were still telling clients that evidence of bona fide marriage is not needed if you are filing concurrently. That could not be more wrong. ***All evidence is required at the time of filing*** Doing so sets you up for success. It took months to dispel that misconception.

I shared the I-751 instructions with you because that is YOUR next milestone. Yes, it is due 90 days before your 2nd anniversary as a conditional permanent resident. Since there is evidence that is only available for a year online (bank statements, receipts, insurance claims etc), it is a good idea to start gathering your evidence as it becomes available.

For the I-751 people also think often that they just need a few statements, and joint documents. Well, that is inaccurate. It is EVERY and ANY document from the date of the marriage until the time you file.
Do not ever assume they will have the evidence from your I-485 available or any previous case you had filed. They do not have to pull that info. If you brought evidence to the interview and the ISO did not keep your evidence, then obviously they will not have that evidence you brought in but they did not keep.

There is no * searching through a stack of docs* if you craft a detailed Table of Contents and organize your evidence into exhibits. You just show the officer the Table of contents and you let them choose. This puts you in control of the situation.

By the way, if you go to an attorney who knows what they are doing, they will charge you to help you organize your evidence they way we are telling folks to do here.

That tells me that you have not read through this thread https://www.immihelp.com/forum/showt...iew-tips/page6

I appreciate your candor but please stop misinforming people. After all, are you really asking people to follow your method? What method? Where is it? I see two posts of yours that describe your experience in no more than 3 sentences. That is not enough for anyone to know what *tried and true* method led to your approval.

All the best,

USCFFS

[Emerald 2020]

Please do not perpetuate that belief that we should only provide USCIS with the minimum necessary to be approved for a conditional green card or Removal of conditions. The days of doing that are over. To be clear, that is terrible advice. Emeral 2020 put together the most complete Table of contents I have ever seen, listing truly concrete evidence of bona fide marriage.

They have been married for a year and a few months and were able to come up with all that evidence. Sure, I have seen people who have reported being married for 4 years while living abroad who cannot even come up with a solid paper trail and manage to get approved. So really? No joint documents for 4 years of marriage while you were living abroad? Others will dangle a baby to sway Immigration Services Officers when they do not have concrete evidence of bona fide marriage.

I have a paper trail from the day I met my husband. I have every receipt of every restaurant, food shop or whatever we?ve ever done. Someone disagreed with the general suggestion to include text messages as proof of bona fide marriage. What is the matter folks? Is it a privacy issue or is it that you just do not have the text messages?

My favorite are of course, those who get married on Thursday, and then file on Friday. *Oh we did not have evidence of bona fide marriage because the EAD and social security card have not arrived, or course? Hmmm, OK, so you JUST met, then? I met my husband in June 2016 and we married in August 2017. I actually have concrete prove that we spent most of that time together.

Congrats on your approval, though. Please make sure to read the I-751 Removal of Conditions instructions. They want a continuum of every document you may have to document the bona fides of your marriage from the date of the marriage until the present date.

Please, do not ever discourage others from going overboard in order to secure their green card, remove conditions or apply for citizenship based on marriage. Do as you wish with your case but do not interfere with those who do not want to be suspected of fraud.

Our AOS package weighed 13 lbs. Here is once again a screenshot. And we will probably have an additional 30lbs of evidence by the time our interview is scheduled in Minneapolis which now takes 14 to 24 months. If Emerald 2020s mountain of evidence makes it harder for someone to commit fraud, well, so be it.

All the best,

USCFFS

Hi all,
My comment is this, UScitizenFilingforspouse is helping several people to get things done rightly here. And I don't think the attack is necesasry. Or 600 pages of documents should be an issue.
Mentioning 600 pages papers doesn't mean everyone should have even half of that. But to stress the importance of having documents. Do your job. And IO will do his/her job.
I am not going there without evidences that has long history,if you dont have evidence ,get creative creative. That is the school of thought here.
You can walk in with 10 pages of evidences and get approved, that doesn't mean that is the best thing to do.
I never front load any evidence except marriage cerificate and divorce documents,so all documents are going in with us now.
I think the user that started this thread by now would have deduced the right thing to do.

Good luck.

[Plz]

Hi all,
My comment is this, UScitizenFilingforspouse is helping several people to get things done rightly here. And I don't think the attack is necesasry. Or 600 pages of documents should be an issue.
Mentioning 600 pages papers doesn't mean everyone should have even half of that. But to stress the importance of having documents. Do your job. And IO will do his/her job.
I am not going there without evidences that has long history,if you dont have evidence ,get creative creative. That is the school of thought here.
You can walk in with 10 pages of evidences and get approved, that doesn't mean that is the best thing to do.
I never front load any evidence except marriage cerificate and divorce documents,so all documents are going in with us now.
I think the user that started this thread by now would have deduced the right thing to do.

Good luck.

Hey.. I never front loaded any evidence too because the attorney that prepared our file told us to wait until interview day. We sent in my husband?s divorce papers and our marriage certificate. When is your interview? Please let me know how it goes if you can. I have not been scheduled for an interview yet. I?m in Atlanta so I don?t know how long it may take as the field office is backed up.

[gunit123]

I have already been to my own AOS interview. I am a naturalized US Citizen and had a very rough ride during my several interviews because I did not send in the evidence with my applications. My experience was similar to user helpmylife. I also had a rough ride for removal of conditions. All I am doing here is trying to help others avoid the experience I had and Help them understand what USCIS requires.

Up until recently attorneys were still telling clients that evidence of bona fide marriage is not needed if you are filing concurrently. That could not be more wrong. ***All evidence is required at the time of filing*** Doing so sets you up for success. It took months to dispel that misconception.

I shared the I-751 instructions with you because that is YOUR next milestone. Yes, it is due 90 days before your 2nd anniversary as a conditional permanent resident. Since there is evidence that is only available for a year online (bank statements, receipts, insurance claims etc), it is a good idea to start gathering your evidence as it becomes available.

For the I-751 people also think often that they just need a few statements, and joint documents. Well, that is inaccurate. It is EVERY and ANY document from the date of the marriage until the time you file.
Do not ever assume they will have the evidence from your I-485 available or any previous case you had filed. They do not have to pull that info. If you brought evidence to the interview and the ISO did not keep your evidence, then obviously they will not have that evidence you brought in but they did not keep.

There is no * searching through a stack of docs* if you craft a detailed Table of Contents and organize your evidence into exhibits. You just show the officer the Table of contents and you let them choose. This puts you in control of the situation.

By the way, if you go to an attorney who knows what they are doing, they will charge you to help you organize your evidence they way we are telling folks to do here.

That tells me that you have not read through this thread https://www.immihelp.com/forum/showt...iew-tips/page6

I appreciate your candor but please stop misinforming people. After all, are you really asking people to follow your method? What method? Where is it? I see two posts of yours that describe your experience in no more than 3 sentences. That is not enough for anyone to know what *tried and true* method led to your approval.

All the best,

USCFFS

i apologise if i was hard headed. i appreciate all the effort you put in this forum. keep doing the great work.

[UScitizenFilingforspouse]

i apologise if i was hard headed. i appreciate all the effort you put in this forum. keep doing the great work.

It?s all good. We all want the same thing.

[Houston2016]

Originally Posted by UScitizenFilingforspouse
...Don't just show a print out of your health insurance cards. Show premium payments. Show when you added your spouse. Show a print out from each month that shows you and your spouse on the health insurance. While that may seem silly, if you include headers and footers, the printed date and the URL will display. This in turn shows that you didn't just add your spouse right before the interview. ...

if you have health insurance from work you cannot add your spouse any time you want. You can do it only during open enrolment period, or during 30 days after your married or he/she arrived from other state/country, basically once a year opportunity to add your spouse. Would work only for private health insurance.
but you always can print out pages where showing all beneficiaries with active (from) date, and of course all claims if beneficiary was using that health insurance. Also online you can print history of payments to health insurance on one page (from health insurance or from you bank account or credit cards web page). Don't need to print out every month.

I would agree with UScitizenFilingforspouse, be creative, go farther than just joint bank account, insurance and a few wedding pictures.

I got an idea from the "Emeral 2020 list" to print out a map of our house and highlight local shops together with our credit cards charges that we both shopping locally (filter chargers on credit cards for extended period). Also i made a pictures of our house with both our cars in front and inside of a house, like our bathroom/bedroom showing his&her side... my IO likes picture where my husband (beneficiary) was watching TV on a couch in his home clothes and where he was working on our car in a garage.

[Tezza]

Your effort shows. If you arrive with a few bits of paper and a prayer, they're going to put more effort into checking you and your evidence, because they're going to be suspicious. If you arrive with a well presented package of information that you can show and explain clearly, you're going to have a much better time.

We had to be creative and we went with 3 binders full of evidence, layed out in a manner that the IO would be able to navigate without us having to explain it. We put a lot of effort into our package and it showed we cared and didn't just take for granted that we'd be granted the GC.

There is nothing wrong with taking 600 pages (if that's what you have) as long as it's well organized with clear categories and serves a purpose.

[cali2018]

Not sure why anyone thinks USCIS takes anything electronic still...

600 pages may seem like a lot. But a lot of it is repetitive. A bank statement is 6 pages. One account for 8 months, thats already 48 pages.

If its repetitive you may assume so why even include it? Because they ask for 'evidence' and that is how evidence works. The legal requirement to revoke a greencard is very 'high' therefore the bar to get one is also very 'high'.

[gunit123]

Not sure why anyone thinks USCIS takes anything electronic still...

600 pages may seem like a lot. But a lot of it is repetitive. A bank statement is 6 pages. One account for 8 months, thats already 48 pages.

If its repetitive you may assume so why even include it? Because they ask for 'evidence' and that is how evidence works. The legal requirement to revoke a greencard is very 'high' therefore the bar to get one is also very 'high'.

true.
what i did was if i have one year worth of statements, i showed them 1 for 4 months each.

i put more emphasis on more important docs like insurance, photos 30-40, pay stubs, mortgage or rental agreement etc. for my interview

[UScitizenFilingforspouse]

Not sure why anyone thinks USCIS takes anything electronic still...

600 pages may seem like a lot. But a lot of it is repetitive. A bank statement is 6 pages. One account for 8 months, thats already 48 pages.

If its repetitive you may assume so why even include it? Because they ask for 'evidence' and that is how evidence works. The legal requirement to revoke a greencard is very 'high' therefore the bar to get one is also very 'high'.

You brought up an excellent point. It's true. Repetitive = consistency. Preponderance of evidence - all of that good stuff.