Hi we had the greencard interview as marriage based today and after the interview officer needed the additional evidences although we submitted photos with friends and family, all bank statements, car insurances, car registration under our names and bills, invoices. Officer asked my wife`s divorce document which is signed by clark, actually we submitted the document which is stamped by clark, but she insisted on the any document which is signed. Moreoever she asked any ******** page photos etc, and conversations on ******** as well. So we got RFE. So do you have any idea if we need second interview or just we submit the documents as mail and we are done. We confused about it. Officer told us we will receive an email which shows the documents that we will submit by mail. And wait like 60-90 days for the final decision. Is there anybody had the same situation before ? Will we have second interview ?
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I am sorry that happened to you but that's why some senior members took their time to write table of contents to bring to the interview to avoid. I'll look for the link and post it here.TPS holder. Married LPR 11/14/14/USC 8/19/17
Child 1/2016
Feb 19 2018:PD just I-130 I765 crooked lawyer did not file concurrently. My medical is sitting here + my IRS transcripts.
Feb 23:RFIE (I130A) long story
May 23: RFIE received.
Aug 20: lawyer called to pick up bio paper. Shocked.
Aug 8:PD I485 according to the form
Aug21: Bio done walkin (scheduled gor Aug 27)
Aug 22: RFIE mailed
Aug 23:RFIE mailed
8/27:RFIE received for I864&original birth certificate
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Originally posted by Heavenlyminded View PostI am sorry that happened to you but that's why some senior members took their time to write table of contents to bring to the interview to avoid. I'll look for the link and post it here.
From the post, it seems like the missing documents were 1.) a ~signed~ rather than ~stamped~ divorce decree and 2.) ******** conversations
It may or may not be the case that Gokhan did not use the TOCs that have been provided on this forum, but what should that matter? I have not seen a TOC that states that USCIS officers will not accept a court document that, while unsigned, has a court seal. Also, if Gokhan submitted other evidence like photos, they should not ~need~ ******** conversations, although they may be requested if other evidence is thin or if the officer just feels like it.
Further, the senior members are not attorneys (or certainly not all of them, anyway), and they are definitely not Gokhan's attorney. Their advice is usually good, but it's not individualized. No offense to the senior members, but not all of those TOCs are super helpful or relevant to all users. While the senior members are truly an invaluable resource to those of us on this forum, and have helped many users, they do not uniformly prevent RFEs. They also do not prevent NOIDs, outright denials, or any other number of less-than-ideal outcomes. No amount of time spent by anyone on this forum will guarantee success, and all advice is (necessarily) limited to generalities and trends.
"Sorry but that's why people spent time for you" is a very unhelpful comment. Who are we to blame or judge? We do not know why the RFE was issued. Anyway, the "why" does not really matter now, except to the extent that it helps Gokhan respond to the RFE.
Gokhan, you should respond to the RFE as requested. You should have received a paper notice listing things that USCIS wants. This is not a list of suggestions, but a list of requirements. Make sure you submit everything USCIS asked for, because you only get one shot. You may add additional, relevant documentation. However, an RFE should not be used to supplement your application regarding things that are not relevant to the RFE (for example, if they ask for a divorce decree and FB convos, you can probably send them some texts as well, but don't send your newest tax returns) because that might annoy a USCIS officer. You should also include a cover letter, explaining what you are submitting. You can probably find examples on this forum or others of good cover letters for RFE responses. (in my personal opinion, which admittedly is no more or less than anyone else's here)
I know a lot of people on this forum have lukewarm feelings about lawyers (and, honestly, not without cause), but if you are feeling unsure, it might be valuable to speak to someone who can get all the details on your application and help you respond to the RFE. If you do that, I recommend doing a lot of research and talking to several so you don't get taken advantage of. If you already have a lawyer and are looking for tips here anyway, ignore that suggestion2/20: Received at Chicago lockbox
4/04: We reviewed your biometrics and are processing your case (I-765 & I-485)
4/18: Ready to be scheduled for an interview (No notification, not updated on either site until Aug 27)
4/19: Request to expedite EAD
5/11: Received EAD
6/26: Applied for Advance Parole
8/09: Advance Parole approved
8/29: Scheduled for Interview
10/11: Interview
10/12: RFE on I-130 (misplaced G28)
10/16: Sent new G28
10/19: Approved!
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Originally posted by Heavenlyminded View PostI am sorry that happened to you but that's why some senior members took their time to write table of contents to bring to the interview to avoid. I'll look for the link and post it here.Originally posted by ember View PostThat's kind of a patronizing thing to say, don't you think?
...Who are we to blame or judge?...
Heavenlyminded was just trying to help by posting useful links, not just for Gokhan, but also for everybody else to avoid such a situation in the future.
Gokhan, try to request copy of divorce papers from the cort. Together with original divorce papers. i think, should be sufficient.
I guess the officer would like to see more evidences of relationship, like conversation via media (texts, phone calls, social media, e-mails), as provided evidences weren't enough or weren't explained. As senior members advise, IO's would like to see continuity of your relationship from beginning. Social media one of the best way to find such evidence from the beginning (nothing disappears from internet )
There is the link Heavenlyminded was mentioning. Read all of it and follow all links in it and read them too. You will understand then what happened at your interview and why you was asked for RFE.
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There is my favorite from "Links: Evidence of bona fide marriage for I-130/I-485 filing & interview tips" thread. It might will have explanation for why Gokhan got RFE.
It's long, but it worth of reading!
Originally posted by UScitizenFilingforspouse View PostIt sounds to me like you provided "some" evidence of bona fide marriage with your adjustment of status package. Often times people confuse a marriage certificate or divorce decree as evidence of bona fide marriage, and count those in as evidence. However, those two items only prove the current marriage occurred and was registered, and that the previous marriage was dissolved.
I am afraid you followed terrible advice from these two threads.
Nowhere on the USCIS website or I-130/I-485 instructions does it state that you do not have to provide all evidence required with your applications. But to just bring it to the interview. That is a misconception. It is not true.
Whether to front-load all your evidence of bona fide marriage is not a "technicality of preference". See for yourself:
I-130 Instructions, Page 3/12 Evidence. At the time of filing, you must submit all evidence and supporting documentation listed in the General Requirements section of these Instructions. USCIS may issue a **Notice of Intent to Deny (NOID)** or a Denial Notice for petitions filed without the required supporting evidence.
And you received a Notice of Intent to Deny. That should not have been a surprise. To be clear, I mean no disrespect. Like I said, you will ultimately be fine. Your marriage is real. I know it is. But others must know that those threads that are floating around are inaccurate and set you up for a rough interview experience. You were led to believe that any evidence sent with the applications would not be looked at. Someone else noted that it didn't seem like they even looked at it during the interview and that they would just ask a few questions and approve on the spot. Sure, that happens when the ISO has ALREADY looked through your evidence and has a positive impression of your case. They will judge your case by the items that are in front of them. At the same token, it's only logical to think they will suspect fraud if they see you did not follow directions and only sent a marriage certificate and a few other items.
So here's the way the ISO sees it. You were required to send ALL your evidence. Did not follow clearly stated directions. Then you bring in all this evidence. They have every reason to suspect those documents may not be legitimate. It is at their discretion to not accept them. There are attorneys who tell clients to bring the 3 most recent bills/statements/etc. That is terrible advice. USCIS wants to see a continuum. No gaps.
An ISO may wonder - Did you JUST change the names on the bill and request statements for the entire year, that way all statements will show both names even though both names were not on the account for the entire year?
How do you avoid that? Well, when you print statements as they are generated every month, include headers and footers, and the URL and date printed will display at the bottom and at the top. Then, you highlight the date printed. Then it is clear you didn't just stay up yesterday printing everything, but that you gathered these as they happened. Your light/gas/internet/cell phone bills give you two notifications via text. Well, print those text messages, too. There are 100 ways to skin a cat.
That's how you show them that they can throw the cat up in the air any way they want, this cat will always land on 4 paws.
Those who front-load may also run into trouble. Why? Well, you can't just send USCIS a stack of documents and expect them to connect the dots. Let me give two examples:
1. "You stated your mother attended the wedding ceremony, but you did not provide a sworn statement from your mother" - We provided a marriage certificate signed by the witness- My mother.
2. Regarding a release of mortgage (Home sale) with my ex-wife, "The committee is questioning why you would have financial ties 1 year after divorce with your ex wife?" If they would have looked through my marriage dissolution, they would see my ex wife had 1 year to refinance or buy me out of the home/quit claim. Hence why there was a release of mortgage 1 year after the divorce with my ex wife.
What's wrong with that picture? You expected USCIS to extrapolate for you. And they stood there with their arms crossed and did not "unwrap" the two pieces of evidence you provided. That's where the line is. Their job stops when they have to connect dots for you.
This is a legal matter. If you read the USCIS manual, you'll see it's all courtroom lingo. The burden of proof rests upon you. You are the one who has to show them your case is worthy of discretion and administrative grace.
It's best to state what each piece of evidence shows. Many recommend creating a timeline of key events and presenting evidence around those key events; from receipts to pictures. You expect them to corroborate your statement with your marriage certificate and add to the file "His mother was clearly present as she was the witness on the marriage certificate". That was your job, not theirs. They very well saw the marriage certificate.
Same goes for the release of mortgage. That should not have been there without a clear explanation. Your table of contents is key in documenting what your evidence shows. For example:
**** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** *
Evidence of Cohabitation
1. Copy of lease agreement listing Spouse Beneficiary & Petitioner as joint tenants at Street address, City, State, Zip Code since January 8th, 2018. (4 pages)
2. 2017 CRP, Certificate of Rent Paid issued by Landlord to Spouse Beneficiary for August 1st, 2017 - December 31st, 2017. (1 page)
--*Of note: serves as documentation that Beneficiary PAID RENT at Street Address. as early as August 1st, 2017, before Spouse Beneficiary's lease started on January 8th, 2018.
( **** This resolves any questions on why my spouse was not on the lease before January 8th, 2018. So I added the explanation **** )
**** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **
Evidence of Receiving Mail at Same Address
1. Spouse Beneficiary checking account statement as evidence that Spouse Beneficiary has received mail at Street Address, City, State, Zip Code as early as May 2017. (1 page)
2. Confirmation of Spouse Beneficiary address change request successful submission from [email protected]. Date: July 1st, 2017. (1 page)
3. Email from [email protected], confirming Spouse Beneficiary's address has been updated with new information provided on July 1st, 2017. (1 page)
4. I-797 Notice of Action addressed to Spouse Beneficiary - Approval notice for application for employment authorization displaying current address. Date: July 24th, 2017. (1 page)
**** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **
Evidence of Joint Electric Residential Service Account
1. Name of Electric Service Provider
Email notifications "your statement is ready" (2 pages total) sent to [email protected] (shared email account) Dates 01/14/18 & 02/13/18
**** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **
Evidence of having unrestricted access to each other's mail through USPS informed delivery account.
1. USPS Informed delivery daily digest - Print out from Petitioner's account (6 pages)
2. USPS Informed delivery daily digest - Print out from Beneficiary's account (36 pages)
**** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** **** ***
It seems silly, obvious and repetitive BUT in legal matters, if you do not state "it" and introduce "it" to the record, it will not be on the record. In my humble opinion, they sensed entitlement. And as I will explain below, marriage based adjustment of status cases are eligible for but not entitled to adjustment of status.
Marriage based adjustment of status cases involve discretion. "For adjustment case types that involve discretion, the exercise of favorable discretion and the approval of an adjustment application is a matter of administrative grace ? meaning the application is worthy of favorable consideration." In other words, while we are eligible for adjustment of status, we are not "entitled" to adjustment of status.
To be extra clear, the only adjustment of status cases that do not involve discretion are:
1. NACARA (Nicaraguan Adjustment and Central American Relief Act of 1997) [6]
2. Refugee Adjustment
3. HRIFA (Haitian Refugee Immigration Fairness Act of 1998) [7]
4. Persons Born Under Diplomatic Status
5. Presumption of Lawful Admission
6. American Indian Creation of Record
Provided the applicant meets all eligibility requirements, USCIS must approve the application.
To better gauge what's expected for your I-130/I-485, see Form I-751 instructions: https://www.uscis.gov/system/files_f...i-751instr.pdf
***Evidence. At the time of filing, you must submit all evidence and supporting documentation listed in the What Initial Evidence Is Required section of these Instructions.***
"Evidence of the Relationship
Submit copies of documents indicating that the marriage upon which you were granted conditional status was entered in good faith and was not for the purpose of circumventing immigration laws. Submit copies of ***as many documents as you can*** to establish this fact, to demonstrate the circumstances of the relationship ***from the date of the marriage to the present date***.
This actually means every month must be accounted for. They do not want any gaps. Thus, it's in everyone's best interest to start gathering evidence for the I-751 from the moment you get married. Why? There are accounts that will only let you access one year worth of statements - for example. If you wait until it's time to file, you may not be able to download every piece of evidence that you need.
This has happened to several people recently. I've checked the thread history and every time, I've run into threads like those two. The record must be rectified. People must know that is terrible advice.
I hope that you addressed every claim on their NOID. They took your case to a committee. No one should have to go through that. All you have to do is front-load your evidence, state clearly on your table of contents what each piece of evidence shows, and have a nice conversation with the ISO.
All the best to you.
Last edited by UScitizenFilingforspouse; 04-19-2018 at 06:47 AM.Field Office: Houston, TX
PD: Nov 14, 2016
Fingerprints: Dec 15, 2016
Ready to schedule for interview: Jan 07, 2017
Interview letter issued: Jul 03, 2018
Interview scheduled: Aug 07,2018 9:35 am
Interview was from 10.30 to 11.00 am
Approved: Aug 07,2018 3:30 pm
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Originally posted by Houston2016 View PostEmber, half of your reply was blaming and judging, just saying.
Heavenlyminded was just trying to help by posting useful links, not just for Gokhan, but also for everybody else to avoid such a situation in the future.
Also not sure how that link is helpful when Gokhan is not preparing for an interview, but already had one and is now preparing for an RFE response. 🤷
Just my opinion, but I think it's more valuable to focus on what can be done now than what someone ~should~ have done, except, as I mentioned, to the extend that it aids someone in their current circumstances.2/20: Received at Chicago lockbox
4/04: We reviewed your biometrics and are processing your case (I-765 & I-485)
4/18: Ready to be scheduled for an interview (No notification, not updated on either site until Aug 27)
4/19: Request to expedite EAD
5/11: Received EAD
6/26: Applied for Advance Parole
8/09: Advance Parole approved
8/29: Scheduled for Interview
10/11: Interview
10/12: RFE on I-130 (misplaced G28)
10/16: Sent new G28
10/19: Approved!
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Originally posted by cali2018 View PostThe divorce document issues is totally legitimate. My guess is you brought up ******** and then didnt have evidence to explain it, otherwise USCIS would give zero shits about ********.
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Originally posted by Plz View PostThis. I was wondering why the IO asked them for ******** posts. It seems they brought it up and didn?t have the evidence at hand to back it up. Some of us do not have social media. I don?t use ******** or Instagram but my husband does and only posts about his work.Filed I-130, I130A, I-485, I-765
Priority Date: 01/22/2018
Date Received NOA Letters: 02/02/2018
Courtesy Letter for i693: 02/20/2018
Biometrics Done: 02/21/2018
Interview(rec' approval letter): 05/31/2018
EAD card in production: 06/02/2018
EAD card in hand: 06/07/2018
SSN card in hand: 06/09/2018
GC approval/production notifications: 07/08/2018
Card mailed notification: 07/09/2018
I130 & I485 approval letters received: 07/09/2018
GC in hand: 07/11/2018
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Originally posted by Plz View PostThis. I was wondering why the IO asked them for ******** posts. It seems they brought it up and didn?t have the evidence at hand to back it up. Some of us do not have social media. I don?t use ******** or Instagram but my husband does and only posts about his work.
Field Office: Houston, TX
PD: Nov 14, 2016
Fingerprints: Dec 15, 2016
Ready to schedule for interview: Jan 07, 2017
Interview letter issued: Jul 03, 2018
Interview scheduled: Aug 07,2018 9:35 am
Interview was from 10.30 to 11.00 am
Approved: Aug 07,2018 3:30 pm
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Originally posted by Houston2016 View Poston <Experiences - Adjustment of Status I-485> he mentioned that they met on FB and were "just friends" for 2 years, after they met in US they got married in 6 months. No wonder IO want to see FB posts and messenger.
https://www.immihelp.com/experience/...-evidence.html
Same with trips, if you are using the idea of taking trips together to show the strength of your relationship.
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Originally posted by Gokhan View PostHi we had the greencard interview as marriage based today and after the interview officer needed the additional evidences although we submitted photos with friends and family, all bank statements, car insurances, car registration under our names and bills, invoices. Officer asked my wife`s divorce document which is signed by clark, actually we submitted the document which is stamped by clark, but she insisted on the any document which is signed. Moreoever she asked any ******** page photos etc, and conversations on ******** as well. So we got RFE. So do you have any idea if we need second interview or just we submit the documents as mail and we are done. We confused about it. Officer told us we will receive an email which shows the documents that we will submit by mail. And wait like 60-90 days for the final decision. Is there anybody had the same situation before ? Will we have second interview ?Originally posted by ember View PostThat's kind of a patronizing thing to say, don't you think?
From the post, it seems like the missing documents were 1.) a ~signed~ rather than ~stamped~ divorce decree and 2.) ******** conversations
It may or may not be the case that Gokhan did not use the TOCs that have been provided on this forum, but what should that matter? I have not seen a TOC that states that USCIS officers will not accept a court document that, while unsigned, has a court seal. Also, if Gokhan submitted other evidence like photos, they should not ~need~ ******** conversations, although they may be requested if other evidence is thin or if the officer just feels like it.
Further, the senior members are not attorneys (or certainly not all of them, anyway), and they are definitely not Gokhan's attorney. Their advice is usually good, but it's not individualized. No offense to the senior members, but not all of those TOCs are super helpful or relevant to all users. While the senior members are truly an invaluable resource to those of us on this forum, and have helped many users, they do not uniformly prevent RFEs. They also do not prevent NOIDs, outright denials, or any other number of less-than-ideal outcomes. No amount of time spent by anyone on this forum will guarantee success, and all advice is (necessarily) limited to generalities and trends.
"Sorry but that's why people spent time for you" is a very unhelpful comment. Who are we to blame or judge? We do not know why the RFE was issued. Anyway, the "why" does not really matter now, except to the extent that it helps Gokhan respond to the RFE.
Gokhan, you should respond to the RFE as requested. You should have received a paper notice listing things that USCIS wants. This is not a list of suggestions, but a list of requirements. Make sure you submit everything USCIS asked for, because you only get one shot. You may add additional, relevant documentation. However, an RFE should not be used to supplement your application regarding things that are not relevant to the RFE (for example, if they ask for a divorce decree and FB convos, you can probably send them some texts as well, but don't send your newest tax returns) because that might annoy a USCIS officer. You should also include a cover letter, explaining what you are submitting. You can probably find examples on this forum or others of good cover letters for RFE responses. (in my personal opinion, which admittedly is no more or less than anyone else's here)
I know a lot of people on this forum have lukewarm feelings about lawyers (and, honestly, not without cause), but if you are feeling unsure, it might be valuable to speak to someone who can get all the details on your application and help you respond to the RFE. If you do that, I recommend doing a lot of research and talking to several so you don't get taken advantage of. If you already have a lawyer and are looking for tips here anyway, ignore that suggestion
Gokhan, I would go back to the clerk and ask for a stamped and signed copy, and then print off any conversations you have between you and your spouse on ********, and also include texts. As for the Lawyer, I'd advise against it because they are out to make money and will do anything possible to make the money including delaying the AOS process if need be. but that choice is up to you. Best of luck. and feel free to PM me or any of the other senior members should you have any other questions or concerns.This is strictly an opinion and should not be misconstrued as legal advice. The use of this information is strictly at your own risk.
-Krypton9591
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Originally posted by krypton9591 View PostEmber regardless of whether or they Gokhan took our advice on how to set up their evidence packet is neither here nor there now. however we post our recommendations based on the fact that we have some experience with how AOS interviews go. so there's no need to bash someone for giving advice to look at our posts. also it seems odd that the clerk would stamp the divorce decree without signing it.
Gokhan, I would go back to the clerk and ask for a stamped and signed copy, and then print off any conversations you have between you and your spouse on ********, and also include texts. As for the Lawyer, I'd advise against it because they are out to make money and will do anything possible to make the money including delaying the AOS process if need be. but that choice is up to you. Best of luck. and feel free to PM me or any of the other senior members should you have any other questions or concerns.
So, implying that Gokhan should have done so and maybe would have avoided an RFE seemed unnecessary to me.
Again, not bashing for giving advice, simply calling out an unkind post.2/20: Received at Chicago lockbox
4/04: We reviewed your biometrics and are processing your case (I-765 & I-485)
4/18: Ready to be scheduled for an interview (No notification, not updated on either site until Aug 27)
4/19: Request to expedite EAD
5/11: Received EAD
6/26: Applied for Advance Parole
8/09: Advance Parole approved
8/29: Scheduled for Interview
10/11: Interview
10/12: RFE on I-130 (misplaced G28)
10/16: Sent new G28
10/19: Approved!
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RFE mail is delivered !
Thank you very much for all suggestions and your helps, I think we should go forward to finish this misunderstanding in the interview. When we went to interview we were relax and it was no need to get in stress. But after the interview we understand that you should not think that the documents are enough for the evidence. Actually we gave all invoices, joint bank accounts, photos that we shared in ******** but not the screenshot of ******** pages (all photos have explanation and dates behind them), if you read my first thread just after interview and read this RFE subjects you can easily see how the situation is going weird :
1. Submitting the evidences my wife's first marriage is not for immigration purpose (She is citizen and It is weird, her first marriage 7 years and now I have to see my wife old photos for evidence which is annoying, she also deleted all photos and requested old photos with her ex husband from some natives if they have, if you suspect about her marriage which she did before, how did you decide to give her GC and Citizenship, I believe that they already got all evidences and decided the GC and Citizenship )
2. Evidences for mutual conversations ******** and ******** or other social network conversations,
3. Receipt of engagement/wedding ring
4. Financial documents (bank accounts, credit card statements, gas bill, electric bill, water bill, other utility bills, joint income taxes, joint insurance policies, insurance policies where is dependent of the other etc) (we submitted all current ones in interview and old ones which we first submit for application)
5. Both of ours W2 forms (I dont have W2 because I was not working)
6. My wifes and my travel documents when we met and other travel documents
7. Dissolution of first marriage of my wife
8. Sworn affidavits from others with personal knowledge of the validity of marriage (I am not sure if we need to certified the affidavits of supports by notary. Because there is no request which says if it should be notarized)
9. Any other evidences in support of our claimed relationship.
These are the documents for RFE and we completed most of the documents but for conversations it is not easy to make screenshot all, because since 2015 maybe 100 pages conversation is need to be printed. I am still making screenshot. And all these conversation document is in Turkish language and we need to translate it and the translator must certify that translation is complete and accurate and he or she is competent to translate from the foreign language to English. (I also don't know if I need to make all these conversation translated by a professional translator)
Deadline is November 24.
I have time but do not wait and want to submit all these documents as soon as possible. I also know the people who has not their mutual home(not living together all time), invoices or joint accounts when they received their GC with less evidence. It is really annoying when I see the cases around me. So I think it totally depends on the IO mood at that time. Also I understand even if you know that your marriage is bono fide, show the officers all documents as thinking they do not know anything about you and you do not know which kind of officer you will come across with. Do not think the evidences are enough, push the limits of evidences
I hope our experience helps others.
Regards.
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Originally posted by Gokhan View PostThank you very much for all suggestions and your helps, I think we should go forward to finish this misunderstanding in the interview. When we went to interview we were relax and it was no need to get in stress. But after the interview we understand that you should not think that the documents are enough for the evidence. Actually we gave all invoices, joint bank accounts, photos that we shared in ******** but not the screenshot of ******** pages (all photos have explanation and dates behind them), if you read my first thread just after interview and read this RFE subjects you can easily see how the situation is going weird :
1. Submitting the evidences my wife's first marriage is not for immigration purpose (She is citizen and It is weird, her first marriage 7 years and now I have to see my wife old photos for evidence which is annoying, she also deleted all photos and requested old photos with her ex husband from some natives if they have, if you suspect about her marriage which she did before, how did you decide to give her GC and Citizenship, I believe that they already got all evidences and decided the GC and Citizenship )
2. Evidences for mutual conversations ******** and ******** or other social network conversations,
3. Receipt of engagement/wedding ring
4. Financial documents (bank accounts, credit card statements, gas bill, electric bill, water bill, other utility bills, joint income taxes, joint insurance policies, insurance policies where is dependent of the other etc) (we submitted all current ones in interview and old ones which we first submit for application)
5. Both of ours W2 forms (I dont have W2 because I was not working)
6. My wifes and my travel documents when we met and other travel documents
7. Dissolution of first marriage of my wife
8. Sworn affidavits from others with personal knowledge of the validity of marriage (I am not sure if we need to certified the affidavits of supports by notary. Because there is no request which says if it should be notarized)
9. Any other evidences in support of our claimed relationship.
These are the documents for RFE and we completed most of the documents but for conversations it is not easy to make screenshot all, because since 2015 maybe 100 pages conversation is need to be printed. I am still making screenshot. And all these conversation document is in Turkish language and we need to translate it and the translator must certify that translation is complete and accurate and he or she is competent to translate from the foreign language to English. (I also don't know if I need to make all these conversation translated by a professional translator)
Deadline is November 24.
I have time but do not wait and want to submit all these documents as soon as possible. I also know the people who has not their mutual home(not living together all time), invoices or joint accounts when they received their GC with less evidence. It is really annoying when I see the cases around me. So I think it totally depends on the IO mood at that time. Also I understand even if you know that your marriage is bono fide, show the officers all documents as thinking they do not know anything about you and you do not know which kind of officer you will come across with. Do not think the evidences are enough, push the limits of evidences
I hope our experience helps others.
Regards.
If you were to ask me for evidence of bona fide marriage from my previous marriage now, well, I don't have any. My ex-wife and I did not keep any sensitive information. At one point I knew her social security number by heart but I have no recollection of what it is now. We married in 97 and separated around 2007. It was a gradual process. We weren't legally separated either, and only got divorced in 2016.
I do not think they can ask for such information. YOUR Adjustment of status IS the issue at hand. The most they can ask of your wife is a notarized affidavit stating that her previous marriage was bona fide as found to be by the Immigration officers who adjudicated ALL her petitions.
I think that I would lawyer up. They need to know that you have a lawyer.
Would you post a screenshot of your RFE? Please de-identify it first.
You have to make sure that you address every item on that RFE. By that I mean that if they ask for "Evidence of cohabitation", you write a full sentence that explains that X Y or Z are evidence of cohabitation between dates mm-dd-yy and mm-dd-yy. You will need a Table of Contents. This is not the time to cut corners. You have until November 24th.
This is the link to iExplorer. https://macroplant.com/iexplorer?gcl...YaAg9nEALw_wcB This will download ALL your iphone messages. You will not have to take screenshots. That's way too time consuming. Just buy the license and download them.
The translator does not have to be a professional translator.
I would recommend getting all your affidavits notarized. Sworn affidavits are not BEST evidence. I am not putting any of my opinion up for debate here. If Gokhan finds any value in it, awesome. If not, that's fine too.
All the best,
USCFFS
PS: DId you file for AOS right after you got married?Last edited by UScitizenFilingforspouse; 09-07-2018, 07:26 PM.
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Originally posted by Houston2016 View Poston <Experiences - Adjustment of Status I-485> he mentioned that they met on FB and were "just friends" for 2 years, after they met in US they got married in 6 months. No wonder IO want to see FB posts and messenger.
https://www.immihelp.com/experience/...-evidence.html
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Originally posted by Plz View PostThis. I was wondering why the IO asked them for ******** posts. It seems they brought it up and didn?t have the evidence at hand to back it up. Some of us do not have social media. I don?t use ******** or Instagram but my husband does and only posts about his work.
So I think you are good there.
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