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    Hello all.
    If we have kids , does it make it easier to get green card from my wife ?

  • #2
    Originally posted by Y268 View Post
    Hello all.
    If we have kids , does it make it easier to get green card from my wife ?
    no

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    • #3
      Kids means commitment

      Originally posted by Y268 View Post
      Hello all.
      If we have kids , does it make it easier to get green card from my wife ?
      If you have kids of course it has highly positive effect on your case. It shows that you are a committed couple and the marriage is bonafide. What else could be a better proof for a bonafide marriage than kids??
      Marriage-based AOS - Concurrent filing.
      03/27-2018 AOS package sent to Chicago Lockbox.
      03/30- confirmation of delivery to USCIS.
      04/11- Four Email/Text notifications
      04/11- cheques cashed
      04/27- Biometrics appointment received.
      04/27-Courtesy Letter-I-693
      05/02- Biometrics walk-in
      08/01- I-765 New Card being produced
      08/03- We approved your case; I-765 & I-131
      08/08-Combo Card received

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      • #4
        Originally posted by b3b3g1 View Post
        If you have kids of course it has highly positive effect on your case. It shows that you are a committed couple and the marriage is bonafide. What else could be a better proof for a bonafide marriage than kids??
        Not in the eyes of USCIS. Commingle of finances beats kids in their eyes.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by cali2018 View Post
          Not in the eyes of USCIS. Commingle of finances beats kids in their eyes.
          What do you mean

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Y268 View Post
            What do you mean
            Here is an example of the The Child Golden Ticket not saving the day. https://www.immihelp.com/forum/showt...-(I-751)/page3 They had a child and still need to show evidence of bona fide marriage. Read the directions. The fact that you are asking this question tells me that you have not read the directions, and that you do not understand how Immigration Officers adjudicate and evaluate your evidence.

            Even if your name is on a child's birth certificate, they care about the financial/paper trail behind that. Yes, people, who -in lieu of evidence- dangle a child at the Immigration officer, are approved but the bar gets raised all the time. People who do not have children now know that they may submit an Advance Health Care directive, a financial power of attorney - all notarized, because USCIS takes those documents very seriously and shows how responsibly you care for your family.

            Breathing generates a paper trail these days. I do not understand how people claim that they do not have evidence to back up their marriages - even after all the resources offered on this forum. Do not show up to your interview with a list of excuses. Bring concrete evidence of bona fide marriage.

            All the best,

            USCFFS

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            • #7
              Originally posted by UScitizenFilingforspouse View Post
              Here is an example of the The Child Golden Ticket not saving the day. https://www.immihelp.com/forum/showt...-(I-751)/page3 They had a child and still need to show evidence of bona fide marriage. Read the directions. The fact that you are asking this question tells me that you have not read the directions, and that you do not understand how Immigration Officers adjudicate and evaluate your evidence.

              Even if your name is on a child's birth certificate, they care about the financial/paper trail behind that. Yes, people, who -in lieu of evidence- dangle a child at the Immigration officer, are approved but the bar gets raised all the time. People who do not have children now know that they may submit an Advance Health Care directive, a financial power of attorney - all notarized, because USCIS takes those documents very seriously and shows how responsibly you care for your family.

              Breathing generates a paper trail these days. I do not understand how people claim that they do not have evidence to back up their marriages - even after all the resources offered on this forum. Do not show up to your interview with a list of excuses. Bring concrete evidence of bona fide marriage.

              All the best,

              USCFFS
              Thank you. Are they divorce ?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by cali2018 View Post
                Not in the eyes of USCIS. Commingle of finances beats kids in their eyes.
                I think, nothing can beat having a child! Nothing! That can not be forged in any way- sure, still have some evidence, but lets be real here- paper trail of bank statements can and is forged sadly all the time - its just that - a PAPER!! A human being and raising a family actually means- u two mean to raise a human - at least for 18 years, those ppl are connected!! U cant forge a child! Those two share responsibilities of financially raising a kid and all , that goes into it. If any US citizen decides to marry and have a child(ren) with an immigrant - they have to understand, that person has to become a legal permanent resident, if they want to raise that child in the same country! All of this goes without saying - i think its pretty obvious!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Dreamerdancer42 View Post
                  I think, nothing can beat having a child! Nothing! That can not be forged in any way- sure, still have some evidence, but lets be real here- paper trail of bank statements can and is forged sadly all the time - its just that - a PAPER!! A human being and raising a family actually means- u two mean to raise a human - at least for 18 years, those ppl are connected!! U cant forge a child! Those two share responsibilities of financially raising a kid and all , that goes into it. If any US citizen decides to marry and have a child(ren) with an immigrant - they have to understand, that person has to become a legal permanent resident, if they want to raise that child in the same country! All of this goes without saying - i think its pretty obvious!
                  That is if you are in fact raising them together. There are a lot of "sperm donor" cases out there that present themselves as a true family - all for a green card. The way OP asked the question can be interpreted as OP wondering whether dangling a child in lieu of evidence is enough. We all know that breathing generates a digital footprint and paper trail. So how is it possible for some folks to have kids together and have no financial evidence to back that up. Food for thought. It happens a lot in this forum.
                  Last edited by UScitizenFilingforspouse; 09-29-2018, 09:32 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by UScitizenFilingforspouse View Post
                    That is if you are in fact raising them together. There are a lot of "sperm donor" cases out there that present themselves as a true family - all for a family. The way OP asked the question can be interpreted as OP wondering whether dangling a child in lieu of evidence is enough. We all know that breathing generates a digital footprint and paper trail. So how is it possible for some folks to have kids together and have no financial evidence to back that up. Food for thought. It happens a lot in this forum.
                    Fair point, i was talking "family"... show child's expenses, medical records, vacations , bday celebrations...the normal family stuff. Of course, that makes sense. Im sure, everything has to be proved.but the link you have shared , seems to talk about a couple, that got divorce. That might be different...?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Dreamerdancer42 View Post
                      Fair point, i was talking "family"... show child's expenses, medical records, vacations , bday celebrations...the normal family stuff. Of course, that makes sense. Im sure, everything has to be proved.but the link you have shared , seems to talk about a couple, that got divorce. That might be different...?
                      Yes true. If they didn?t get divorce there will not be problem.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Dreamerdancer42 View Post
                        Fair point, i was talking "family"... show child's expenses, medical records, vacations , bday celebrations...the normal family stuff. Of course, that makes sense. Im sure, everything has to be proved.but the link you have shared , seems to talk about a couple, that got divorce. That might be different...?
                        Right. And I see your point. I agree. If two people are raising a child together as a family and living in marital union, then really, they should have plenty of evidence. Babies come with bills, cards from folks congratulating you, godparents in many cultures. The paper trail is endless. So it's interesting when someone shows up saying they don't have financial evidence BUT they have a daughter. How does that happen? As I have mentioned before, my goal is to direct people to sources of information. To be clear, I do not wonder whether people are committing fraud or not. That goes beyond the scope of my purpose here.

                        Now, the link I shared - they had a rough interview -possibly 2 interviews for AOS. From that person's responses I am gathering:
                        a. the marriage is real
                        b. they were YOUNG
                        c. they were busy
                        d. they did not know that they would still be required to present concrete evidence of bona fide marriage even though they have a 6 year old daughter.

                        He has all the evidence available. He didn't seem to realize that he had to present it EVEN THOUGH he had a daughter. So my point is that showing you have a kid shows that you have a kid. Or at least, that is how many ISOs see it these days. You still have to show the paper trail behind it. It should be no big deal to show the evidence.

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                        • #13
                          Seriously enough. Welcome to the USA and welcome to western culture in general. The divorce rate is much higher in the west and there is multiple ways to have children and many people who choose to not have children.

                          I am glad you feel the way you do about raising children, but in the eyes of USCIS and the us government it is not going to help or hurt your case. That is how it will be treated. There is lots of people who disqualified from the AOS process who are parents of USC children or many who require lengthy waiver processes.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by cali2018 View Post
                            Seriously enough. Welcome to the USA and welcome to western culture in general. The divorce rate is much higher in the west and there is multiple ways to have children and many people who choose to not have children.

                            I am glad you feel the way you do about raising children, but in the eyes of USCIS and the us government it is not going to help or hurt your case. That is how it will be treated. There is lots of people who disqualified from the AOS process who are parents of USC children or many who require lengthy waiver processes.
                            And don?t get me started about carbon footprint... did you know that you can recycle, ride your bike every day, never use any gas and any effort to reduce your footprint pales in comparison to the carbon footprint of a child?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by cali2018 View Post
                              Seriously enough. Welcome to the USA and welcome to western culture in general. The divorce rate is much higher in the west and there is multiple ways to have children and many people who choose to not have children.

                              I am glad you feel the way you do about raising children, but in the eyes of USCIS and the us government it is not going to help or hurt your case. That is how it will be treated. There is lots of people who disqualified from the AOS process who are parents of USC children or many who require lengthy waiver processes.
                              I would love to read that USCIS eyese guidelines lol Life is Life anything can happen divorce, marriage. Noone says have a child and drag your child to the interview and demand to be approved. If anyone has a little bit of idea what it means to have a child can clearly say that a chil's shared responsibility either in life or on paperwork stays FOREVER. The day after your interview you can any financial paperwork you want redone but the child. It is really even funny to argue over this.. what makes a family? 2 people in the first step having a desire to create a union and second step is expanding that union either with adoption or birth. How on Earth any paperwork can overdo this life-changing event?
                              Marriage-based AOS - Concurrent filing.
                              03/27-2018 AOS package sent to Chicago Lockbox.
                              03/30- confirmation of delivery to USCIS.
                              04/11- Four Email/Text notifications
                              04/11- cheques cashed
                              04/27- Biometrics appointment received.
                              04/27-Courtesy Letter-I-693
                              05/02- Biometrics walk-in
                              08/01- I-765 New Card being produced
                              08/03- We approved your case; I-765 & I-131
                              08/08-Combo Card received

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