birth certificates

[rethinamusa]

Hi,
Do anybody know whether Baptism certificates from churches are acceptable by INS for filing I-485?

If the birth date is different in the govt record and in the passport/visa, is it a problem for filing I-485?

Thanks

Do anyone has any info on this?

[Joyous123]

Hi,

I have just recently filed for I485 and as per my lawyer, the INS doesn't accept the Church Baptisimal Certificates as birth record. It is considered as secondary evidence of birth in cases where the govt. birth certificate is not available and affidavits have to accompany it from parents/family/friends who were present at the time of birth. Generally the lawyers also prefer to have a letter of NON-AVAILABILITY from the Municipal stating that the birth record is not available. With regards to difference in the date of birth in the Govt. records and the passport, your best bet would be to take legal advise and do accordingly.

[dinpata]

rethinamusa

Did you find any solution to this problem ? I have the same problem. Please let me know

thanks

[Joyous123]

Hi,

In our case the birth was not registered at all due to it being prior to 1970(when it was not compulsory to register births). Hence we just submitted two affidavits stating that the municipal birth certificate is not available. We also submitted our school leaving certificate and the baptisim certificate as secondary proof.

But as in your case the dates differ, you too may have to submit two affidavits stating that the birthdate was mistakenly registered on a different date and submit both the municipal certificate with the wrong date and other records like school certificates, passport copies and baptisim certificate.

Joyous123

[aindian1]

Hello
I have the same problem of having different birth dates in Original birth cert and (passport & all academic documents).
I have been writing the dob as in my passport until now everywhere.
What should i do. Should i present the original birth cert
along with affidavits from my parents that the dob in Birth Cert is wrong?? Will that do??
I need urgent help on this and can also call somebody on phone if anybody can give there tel no.
Thanks a lot

[gc_ans_seeker]

Differnt date of birth on passport and birth certificate

Hello Guys
What did you in above cases
Any update will be higly appreciated
Its very common thing in old days

[user01]

You can produce non-availabitiy of birth certificate - i think there is a standard format - u need to get 4 - Rs20 stamp papers signed by parents and 2 other witnesses , which is accepted by uscis or contact the nearest Indian embassy whether they can give a birth certificate based on your passport - sslc ...etc.

Hope this helps you

[immihelp]

Look at https://www.immihelp.com/birth-certi...ion-and-visas/

[kab911]

birth certificates

Hi,

In our case the birth was not registered at all due to it being prior to 1970(when it was not compulsory to register births). Hence we just submitted two affidavits stating that the municipal birth certificate is not available. We also submitted our school leaving certificate and the baptisim certificate as secondary proof.

But as in your case the dates differ, you too may have to submit two affidavits stating that the birthdate was mistakenly registered on a different date and submit both the municipal certificate with the wrong date and other records like school certificates, passport copies and baptisim certificate.

Joyous123

Hi ,
i have a quick question , if you can plz clearify it .
from you reply i have concluded if we do not hv a birth certificate then as a primary doccument we can submit 2 affidavits.Ineed to know that the 2 affidavits should be from mother and father separately or one from both the parents and another from a relative ?
and as a secondary doccument school doccuments will be sufficient.
IS THAT ALL THAT WE NEED AS A PROOF OF BIRTH?AND THERE IS NO FURTHER NEED OF CERTIFICATE OF NON AVALIBILITY .

ill be really thankful to you guys for taking your time out and helping others.
thanks in advance
kab

[ariyamannil]

My lawyer sent me the following information:

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This memo is to clarify requirements by the INS regarding evidence of birth and marriage for permanent residency applicants born in India.


Birth Certificate for Indian-Born Persons

All Indian-born permanent residency applicants are required to submit a governmentally-issued certificate. It will be one of the two documents as described below:
1) A birth certificate issued by the local municipal or village authorities (gram panchayat or mamlatdar); or
2) A certificate or letter that there is no record of your birth from the local municipal or village authorities.

IF YOU HAVE A BIRTH CERTIFICATE:
1) Does it accurately and completely show these four items?
a) Your date of birth;
b) your place of birth;
c) the names of both your parents; and
d) your complete name. If your birth certificate has all four of these items, we do not need any other document.
2) If your birth certificate does not accurately have all four of the above-mentioned items, and many do not, then we need two additional documents, as well as the birth certificate:
a) A "school leaving certificate"; and
b) A "birth affidavit" on Rs 5/ - stamp paper sworn to before a First Class Magistrate by your parents (mother preferred) stating:
i) the names of both of your parents;
ii) your complete name;
iii) that you are, in fact, their child;
iv) your complete date of birth; and
v) your complete place of birth.

IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A BIRTH CERTIFICATE AT ALL
We will need three documents:
1) A certificate or letter from a government office (local, municipal or village authorities) in India stating clearly that there is no record of your birth;
2) A "school leaving certificate"; and
3) A "birth affidavit" (see attached sample) on Rs 5/ - stamp paper sworn to before a First Class Magistrate by your parents (mother preferred) stating:
a) the names of both of your parents;
b) your complete name;
c) that you are, in fact, their child;
d) your complete date of birth;
e) your complete place of birth; and
f) that no governmentally-issued birth certificate is available.

[ariyamannil]

It is still not clear what to do if the DOB and place of birth in birth certificate and passport (and all other documents) are different.

If we do more research on the web, we will get more confused. I could not find any official memos also so far.

Seems indian consulate issues a new passport with updated DOB and palce of birth as per the Birth certificate if a court order can be obtained. But what happens to all the documents and bank/medical records all were tracked so far mostly using the DOB from passport ? How easy to update all of them ?

Otherwise, can we claim the govt issued birth certificate is wrong on DOB and place of birth by presenting a sworn in birth affidavit by the parents ?
Which one will be considered the correct information ?
How easy to obtain such a document sworn in front of a first class magistrate in India ? Anybody had obtained such affidavits ?