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    Hi,

    I am applying for OCI application for my daughter born in US. The procedure is recently changed and it seems you can not apply in person. And the CKGC website mention that you need to send both applicant original passport and parents original passport along with the application by post. I wanted to know if some body recently applied for OCI and this information is correct. Is it fine to send both applicant and parents original passport in the beginning itself. And how much time it takes to receive the passport and OCI when applying from New York Mission. Any additional information will be helpful.

    Thanks in advance for you help
    Raj

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    new OCI process

    Hi,

    Yes, they do require you to send in the passports during the time of application. So, you will need to submit these with the the application.

    I had applied and did not send these in to begin with. These were sent to the NY office. On receiving the application my status showed "we are missing documents and application is on hold". I had to then send the original passports in separately. The original passports were then returned within 4 days after verification. Although, the message is again very confusing as it says your original passport has been withdrawn. I had to call 3 times and email them as well before I was convinced this is their way of saying that the originals have been verified and are being returned. Strange use of words 'withdrawn' means something else, but it seems its normal part of process.

    I do think this is a very inefficient process and a wast of resources. This does cause a lot of anxiety and has the possibility of misplacement of docs - but who am I ? Indian govt. will do what they want to do without thinking about the common man.
    Last edited by ctdesi; 03-01-2016, 05:05 PM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Raj2205 View Post
      Hi,

      I am applying for OCI application for my daughter born in US. The procedure is recently changed and it seems you can not apply in person. And the CKGC website mention that you need to send both applicant original passport and parents original passport along with the application by post. I wanted to know if some body recently applied for OCI and this information is correct. Is it fine to send both applicant and parents original passport in the beginning itself. And how much time it takes to receive the passport and OCI when applying from New York Mission. Any additional information will be helpful.

      Thanks in advance for you help
      Raj
      what is your Jurisdiction? if submit to San Francisco, do not send any original documents specially current passport or pio card. sfo dosen't need any original documents verifications

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      • #4
        I sent the application to SFO office on 1st Feb 2016 for OCI in Lieu of PIO (minor). Sent original passport of the applicant only. Passport returned back in a weeks time. I am awaiting for OCI to return from Delhi.

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        • #5
          OCI Original Documets

          Since they changed OCI procedure it is requiring people to send original documents such as passports and OCI books (except SFO). My advice to everyone is to write name, address and WeB reference ID on a piece of paper and tape it to the back of each document. This way even if the documents are somehow separated from the file, the information will be there with the documents itself and they should be able to trace who to send them back to.

          I was sweating over having to send these and the possibility of them being misplaced. Then I got the idea of taping return address on the back of all original documents.I felt much better that way. I did receive them back as well, and having the details on the documents made me feel much better. Just wanted to pass along this tip to all those who are worried about the documents being misplaced.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ctdesi View Post
            Since they changed OCI procedure it is requiring people to send original documents such as passports and OCI books (except SFO). My advice to everyone is to write name, address and WeB reference ID on a piece of paper and tape it to the back of each document. This way even if the documents are somehow separated from the file, the information will be there with the documents itself and they should be able to trace who to send them back to.

            I was sweating over having to send these and the possibility of them being misplaced. Then I got the idea of taping return address on the back of all original documents.I felt much better that way. I did receive them back as well, and having the details on the documents made me feel much better. Just wanted to pass along this tip to all those who are worried about the documents being misplaced.
            I recently submitted my passports and CKGS lost it. So good luck.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by proonindiandoc View Post
              what is your Jurisdiction? if submit to San Francisco, do not send any original documents specially current passport or pio card. sfo dosen't need any original documents verifications
              In theory you don't need to submit original documents to San Francisco, but we live in the San Francisco bay area and I wasted most of this week trying to get them to accept my child's reissue of oci (new passport) application without
              sending in original oci card and expired passport with u visa before giving up and mailing them. Here is my tale of woe.
              I received an email stating that the following were missing:

              "PHYSICAL EXPIRED USA PASSPORT WITH 'U' VISA,
              PHYSICAL OCI CARD OF APPLICANT.
              PLEASE PRINT/COPY THE FIRIST PAGE OF OCI REGESTRAION FORM USING SAME WEBFILE ID AND REPLACE THE UPLOADED DIGITAL SIGNATURE/THUMB PRINT WITH A CLEAR AND CLEAN SIGNATURE/THUMB PRINT IN THE BOX UNDER THE PHOTO."

              I spoke to Cox and Kings on the phone three times this week and each time the first thing they tell me is that I need to send in physical documents. I then tell them checklist items 9 and 10 on their website in regards to passport with u visa and oci card say don't send them for San Francisco. Each time, they put me on hold for 10-15 minutes. Then finally they admit you don't
              need to send original documents. I am told I can email first page of oci registration with new signature (I don't know why they didn't like the uploaded signature of my five year old child). I send an email to the address provided with new signature page and
              state that I spoke to Cox and Kings on this date and time and they said I don't need to send physical documents for oci and passport with u visa and also state checklist items 9 and 10 say don't. I also enclose the checklist with my email. I don't hear back from them, so I resend document via email. Finally after my third phone call with Cox and Kings they say they will have a manager in SF look into it
              and I will will receive an update. The result is I receive an email that states the oci application is on
              hold with the following missing:

              "Still missing physical expired USA passport with U visa sticker and Physical OCI card for the applicant"

              Maybe I can waste more time trying to convince Cox and Kings to process the application without oci card and
              expired passport with u visa or give up and spend 5 minutes to mail documents to Cox and Kings. I gave up. I just hope they
              don't lose my physical documents like they did for that person in NY.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by pnc View Post
                In theory you don't need to submit original documents to San Francisco, but we live in the San Francisco bay area and I wasted most of this week trying to get them to accept my child's reissue of oci (new passport) application without
                sending in original oci card and expired passport with u visa before giving up and mailing them. Here is my tale of woe.
                I received an email stating that the following were missing:

                "PHYSICAL EXPIRED USA PASSPORT WITH 'U' VISA,
                PHYSICAL OCI CARD OF APPLICANT.
                PLEASE PRINT/COPY THE FIRIST PAGE OF OCI REGESTRAION FORM USING SAME WEBFILE ID AND REPLACE THE UPLOADED DIGITAL SIGNATURE/THUMB PRINT WITH A CLEAR AND CLEAN SIGNATURE/THUMB PRINT IN THE BOX UNDER THE PHOTO."

                I spoke to Cox and Kings on the phone three times this week and each time the first thing they tell me is that I need to send in physical documents. I then tell them checklist items 9 and 10 on their website in regards to passport with u visa and oci card say don't send them for San Francisco. Each time, they put me on hold for 10-15 minutes. Then finally they admit you don't
                need to send original documents. I am told I can email first page of oci registration with new signature (I don't know why they didn't like the uploaded signature of my five year old child). I send an email to the address provided with new signature page and
                state that I spoke to Cox and Kings on this date and time and they said I don't need to send physical documents for oci and passport with u visa and also state checklist items 9 and 10 say don't. I also enclose the checklist with my email. I don't hear back from them, so I resend document via email. Finally after my third phone call with Cox and Kings they say they will have a manager in SF look into it
                and I will will receive an update. The result is I receive an email that states the oci application is on
                hold with the following missing:

                "Still missing physical expired USA passport with U visa sticker and Physical OCI card for the applicant"

                Maybe I can waste more time trying to convince Cox and Kings to process the application without oci card and
                expired passport with u visa or give up and spend 5 minutes to mail documents to Cox and Kings. I gave up. I just hope they
                don't lose my physical documents like they did for that person in NY.
                can you read my post: do not send CURRENT passport, for OCI Misc. for new passport issued you must submit OLD passport with U-visa and OCI card which I didn't say not included.

                one more time for all you falks, only physical Passport needed are:
                1. when you apply OCI Misc. new passport issued, must submit Old passport which has U-Visa and OCI card
                2. When you apply OCI Misc. change of particulars, must submit OCI card
                3. Lost of passport/OCI Misc. submit whichever available book and police report stating which book had been lost/stolen
                4. Renunciation with OCI only latest Indian passport, do not send bundle of old Indian passport.

                and do not send any original support documents such as, birth certificate, marriage certificate Naturalization certificate ect. copies only and do not notary every single pages, save your money or donate to me. only documents need to be notarized are any Affidavits statements, Parental Authorization for Minor OCI/VISA. not anymore

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by proonindiandoc View Post
                  can you read my post: do not send CURRENT passport, for OCI Misc. for new passport issued you must submit OLD passport with U-visa and OCI card which I didn't say not included.

                  one more time for all you falks, only physical Passport needed are:
                  1. when you apply OCI Misc. new passport issued, must submit Old passport which has U-Visa and OCI card
                  2. When you apply OCI Misc. change of particulars, must submit OCI card
                  3. Lost of passport/OCI Misc. submit whichever available book and police report stating which book had been lost/stolen
                  4. Renunciation with OCI only latest Indian passport, do not send bundle of old Indian passport.

                  and do not send any original support documents such as, birth certificate, marriage certificate Naturalization certificate ect. copies only and do not notary every single pages, save your money or donate to me. only documents need to be notarized are any Affidavits statements, Parental Authorization for Minor OCI/VISA. not anymore

                  What you state probably reflects how Cox and Kings currently processes oci. My complaint is what is currently on
                  their website as I type this in regards for oci misc new passport does not reflect how they actually
                  process. It specifically states for San Francisco not
                  to send original expired passport with u visa and original oci card. I spent about a week wasting my time trying to
                  get Cox and Kings to follow the procedure on their website.

                  For example, the checklist list for items 9 and 10 found at



                  as I currently type this post states:


                  Item 9
                  EXPIRED US PASSPORT WITH PREVIOUSLY ISSUED U-VISA
                   Original Expired US Passport containing the U-Visa is required
                  AND
                   COPY of the information page of the passport and U Visa sticker is
                  required
                   Only for San Francisco Jurisdiction- Do not send Original. Please send Self
                  Attested copy.

                  Item 10
                  OCI CARD
                   Original OCI Card must be provided
                  AND
                   Copies of Registration Certificate and Information Page to be attached.
                   Only for San Francisco Jurisdiction- Do not send Original. Please send Self
                  Attested copy.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by pnc View Post
                    What you state probably reflects how Cox and Kings currently processes oci. My complaint is what is currently on
                    their website as I type this in regards for oci misc new passport does not reflect how they actually
                    process. It specifically states for San Francisco not
                    to send original expired passport with u visa and original oci card. I spent about a week wasting my time trying to
                    get Cox and Kings to follow the procedure on their website.

                    For example, the checklist list for items 9 and 10 found at



                    as I currently type this post states:


                    Item 9
                    EXPIRED US PASSPORT WITH PREVIOUSLY ISSUED U-VISA
                     Original Expired US Passport containing the U-Visa is required
                    AND
                     COPY of the information page of the passport and U Visa sticker is
                    required
                     Only for San Francisco Jurisdiction- Do not send Original. Please send Self
                    Attested copy.

                    Item 10
                    OCI CARD
                     Original OCI Card must be provided
                    AND
                     Copies of Registration Certificate and Information Page to be attached.
                     Only for San Francisco Jurisdiction- Do not send Original. Please send Self
                    Attested copy.

                    you read my post right? i am trying to make it simple to all of you falks who can't understand the stupid update from ckgs, and you are following the black hole instructions.

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