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    I am 50 yr US citizen who has been abroad for the past seven years. I currently live in Hong Kong and am married to a Chinese (mainland) woman.

    I recently adopted my stepson (her biological son), who is 11, in Hong Kong. He was born in New Zealand. He has been under my (our) custody for close to three years.

    I would like get him US citizenship. I was told by USCIS to use form I-130, but I read on your on this site that if one can prove two years custody (which I can), that I could use form N-600K and process it while in the States.

    Here's the link:



    Any ideas of how I can navigate this process?

    Thanks.

  • #2
    You can go either way, with an I-130 or with an N-600.

    If you try the N-600 route, however, you must get the child into the U.S. with a visitor visa, which may be problematic.

    The I-130 is your best bet, as he comes in as your stepson, and his adopted status may later serve as a basis for his claiming U.S. citizenship.

    The irony, however, is that when you petition him as your "adopted' stepson, the burden of evidence, to prove completed adoption, is greater than if you had not adopted him and just petitioned him as your stepson.

    --Ray B

    Originally posted by Patrick McMahon View Post
    I am 50 yr US citizen who has been abroad for the past seven years. I currently live in Hong Kong and am married to a Chinese (mainland) woman.

    I recently adopted my stepson (her biological son), who is 11, in Hong Kong. He was born in New Zealand. He has been under my (our) custody for close to three years.

    I would like get him US citizenship. I was told by USCIS to use form I-130, but I read on your on this site that if one can prove two years custody (which I can), that I could use form N-600K and process it while in the States.

    Here's the link:



    Any ideas of how I can navigate this process?

    Thanks.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by rayb View Post
      You can go either way, with an I-130 or with an N-600.

      If you try the N-600 route, however, you must get the child into the U.S. with a visitor visa, which may be problematic.

      The I-130 is your best bet, as he comes in as your stepson, and his adopted status may later serve as a basis for his claiming U.S. citizenship.

      The irony, however, is that when you petition him as your "adopted' stepson, the burden of evidence, to prove completed adoption, is greater than if you had not adopted him and just petitioned him as your stepson.

      --Ray B
      Thanks for the quick response. A few questions to your reply:

      "If you try the N-600 route, however, you must get the child into the U.S. with a visitor visa, which may be problematic."
      My son (formerly stepson) has a New Zealand passport. Can't he enter the US on a visitor without a visa under the Visa Waiver Program?


      "The I-130 is your best bet, as he comes in as your stepson, and his adopted status may later serve as a basis for his claiming U.S. citizenship."
      I formally adopted him in Hong Kong and thus have a legal document. Are you saying I have the option to bring him to States w/ I-130 as "a stepson," even though the adoption has already occurred? And this may be easier?

      Thanks again Ray B!

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      • #4
        The child could enter the U.S. as a "visa waiver" status entrant, and that serves the same purpose as being in the U.S. legally for citizenship claim (using the N-600).

        --Ray B

        Originally posted by Patrick McMahon View Post
        Thanks for the quick response. A few questions to your reply:

        "If you try the N-600 route, however, you must get the child into the U.S. with a visitor visa, which may be problematic."
        My son (formerly stepson) has a New Zealand passport. Can't he enter the US on a visitor without a visa under the Visa Waiver Program?


        "The I-130 is your best bet, as he comes in as your stepson, and his adopted status may later serve as a basis for his claiming U.S. citizenship."
        I formally adopted him in Hong Kong and thus have a legal document. Are you saying I have the option to bring him to States w/ I-130 as "a stepson," even though the adoption has already occurred? And this may be easier?

        Thanks again Ray B!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by rayb View Post
          The child could enter the U.S. as a "visa waiver" status entrant, and that serves the same purpose as being in the U.S. legally for citizenship claim (using the N-600).

          --Ray B
          Thanks again Ray B. After I asked that last question, I Googled the ESTA (VWP) and saw this:

          These are some examples of activities not permitted on the VWP and require visas for travel to the United States:

          -study, for credit
          -employment
          -work as foreign press, radio, film, journalists, or other information media
          -permanent residence in the United States

          Would the last point refer to a citizenship claim?

          Thanks again.

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          • #6
            Actually, the point on your citation is not borne out by one exception allowed. Conversion to Permanent Resident status when petitioned by a U.S. citizen is allowed for VWP entrants.

            On the other hand, I cannot say with absolute certainty that a VWP entrant can apply for citizenship recognition using the N-600. On the other hand, however, when entering with a B2 visa, one can apply for the citizenship certificate using the N-600 procedure.


            --Ray B





            Originally posted by Patrick McMahon View Post
            Thanks again Ray B. After I asked that last question, I Googled the ESTA (VWP) and saw this:

            These are some examples of activities not permitted on the VWP and require visas for travel to the United States:

            -study, for credit
            -employment
            -work as foreign press, radio, film, journalists, or other information media
            -permanent residence in the United States

            Would the last point refer to a citizenship claim?

            Thanks again.

            Comment


            • #7
              Follow-up

              Originally posted by rayb View Post
              Actually, the point on your citation is not borne out by one exception allowed. Conversion to Permanent Resident status when petitioned by a U.S. citizen is allowed for VWP entrants.

              On the other hand, I cannot say with absolute certainty that a VWP entrant can apply for citizenship recognition using the N-600. On the other hand, however, when entering with a B2 visa, one can apply for the citizenship certificate using the N-600 procedure.


              --Ray B
              Hi Ray B,

              A quick follow up: I am about to fill out the proper paperwork for my adopted stepson. In the past thread, you mentioned the N-600. But I believe it should be the N-600K. Am I mistaken? Also, the most recent form has expired 5/31/2015. Is there a new form floating out there that I couldn't find or a new procedure?

              Thank you.

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              • #8
                Patrick,

                There are very specific uses for the N-600 and /or the N-600K.

                To give you a better answer, please answer the following:

                1. Is your adopted son now in the U.S. or outside the U.S.?
                2. If in the U.S., with what visa type did he enter?

                --Ray B

                Originally posted by Patrick McMahon View Post
                Hi Ray B,

                A quick follow up: I am about to fill out the proper paperwork for my adopted stepson. In the past thread, you mentioned the N-600. But I believe it should be the N-600K. Am I mistaken? Also, the most recent form has expired 5/31/2015. Is there a new form floating out there that I couldn't find or a new procedure?

                Thank you.

                Comment


                • #9
                  Adoption/US Citizenship

                  Originally posted by rayb View Post
                  Patrick,

                  There are very specific uses for the N-600 and /or the N-600K.

                  To give you a better answer, please answer the following:

                  1. Is your adopted son now in the U.S. or outside the U.S.?
                  2. If in the U.S., with what visa type did he enter?

                  --Ray B
                  Ray B,

                  Thanks for your quick reply.

                  1. My son is currently in Hong Kong.
                  2. He will arrive in the States with me on the New Zealand visa waiver (VWP) this summer. I believe you mentioned a B2 visa may be a better option to ensure a successful process.

                  Pat

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                  • #10
                    I'll get back to you tomorrow, as I want to check with a couple of people who have done this before.

                    --RayB

                    Originally posted by Patrick McMahon View Post
                    Ray B,

                    Thanks for your quick reply.

                    1. My son is currently in Hong Kong.
                    2. He will arrive in the States with me on the New Zealand visa waiver (VWP) this summer. I believe you mentioned a B2 visa may be a better option to ensure a successful process.

                    Pat

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by rayb View Post
                      I'll get back to you tomorrow, as I want to check with a couple of people who have done this before.

                      --RayB
                      Thanks Ray.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Entry on a VWP should meet the requirement of "legally present in the U.S." to apply with N-600K for a Citizenship Certificate, if the child meets all other requirements (age under 18, parent's citizenship status, etc.).

                        --Ray B

                        Originally posted by Patrick McMahon View Post
                        Thanks Ray.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by rayb View Post
                          Entry on a VWP should meet the requirement of "legally present in the U.S." to apply with N-600K for a Citizenship Certificate, if the child meets all other requirements (age under 18, parent's citizenship status, etc.).

                          --Ray B
                          Thanks again Ray.

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Guangzhou USA Embassy

                            Originally posted by Patrick McMahon View Post
                            I am 50 yr US citizen who has been abroad for the past seven years. I currently live in Hong Kong and am married to a Chinese (mainland) woman.

                            I recently adopted my stepson (her biological son), who is 11, in Hong Kong. He was born in New Zealand. He has been under my (our) custody for close to three years.

                            I would like get him US citizenship. I was told by USCIS to use form I-130, but I read on your on this site that if one can prove two years custody (which I can), that I could use form N-600K and process it while in the States.

                            Here's the link:



                            Any ideas of how I can navigate this process?

                            Thanks.
                            Can one complete this process through a US Embassy? We are based in Hong Kong but are close to a US Guangzhou embassy. We won't be returning to the States until the summer. Any idea?

                            Thank you!

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                            • #15
                              Patrick,

                              The I-130 is to get him to the U.S. as an immigrant. Once in the U.S., as an immigrant or as a visitor, the N600K would be used to apply for his citizenship certificate. If you are residing in HK, he would be processed in HK. Guangzhou is used for visa processing if you are residing in Mainland China.

                              -Ray B

                              Originally posted by Patrick McMahon View Post
                              Can one complete this process through a US Embassy? We are based in Hong Kong but are close to a US Guangzhou embassy. We won't be returning to the States until the summer. Any idea?

                              Thank you!

                              Comment

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