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    Hi. On September, 2017 I acquired US Citizenship through my father, who is deceased. I have always lived in Venezuela. I want to move to the US with my daughter. I know that she can acquire US citizenship through the N600k form. But my case has the following issues:

    - In the Part 3, Item 11 of the N600k form, it requests a ?Certificate of Citizenship number?. I have never had a certificate of citizenship, only my US passport. Must I have to request this Certificate? Or leave this item blank?
    - I have not a SSN. Thus, I have never declared US taxes. Also, I do not overpass the poverty line right now. Does this represent a limitation in order to obtain a B-2 visa for my child to attend to the interview? Does this interview can be held at the US Embassy en Venezuela? It would be great if we could attend to the embassy right here.
    - I?m divorced. The divorce document states that ?we have agreed that the mother will exercise the care and custody in the same way that she has been exercising at the moment of birth of our minor daughter?. Will this be enough as a proof of legal and physical custody of my daughter? I also have a broad power document granted by her father, which allows me to make any tramit on her behalf (this document was granted to me two years ago).
    - The fee amount of USD $ 1,170.00 is, in the country where I live in, literally a LOT of money. In case that they need more information, or some information that I send is wrong, or the application is rejected, do they charge this fee?

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    Originally posted by Bellisima View Post
    Hi. On September, 2017 I acquired US Citizenship through my father, who is deceased. I have always lived in Venezuela. I want to move to the US with my daughter. I know that she can acquire US citizenship through the N600k form. But my case has the following issues:

    - In the Part 3, Item 11 of the N600k form, it requests a ?Certificate of Citizenship number?. I have never had a certificate of citizenship, only my US passport. Must I have to request this Certificate? Or leave this item blank?
    - I have not a SSN. Thus, I have never declared US taxes. Also, I do not overpass the poverty line right now. Does this represent a limitation in order to obtain a B-2 visa for my child to attend to the interview? Does this interview can be held at the US Embassy en Venezuela? It would be great if we could attend to the embassy right here.
    - I?m divorced. The divorce document states that ?we have agreed that the mother will exercise the care and custody in the same way that she has been exercising at the moment of birth of our minor daughter?. Will this be enough as a proof of legal and physical custody of my daughter? I also have a broad power document granted by her father, which allows me to make any tramit on her behalf (this document was granted to me two years ago).
    - The fee amount of USD $ 1,170.00 is, in the country where I live in, literally a LOT of money. In case that they need more information, or some information that I send is wrong, or the application is rejected, do they charge this fee?
    If you plan to move to the US with her, then the N-600K route is NOT the right path. The N-600K path is for children who will remain living abroad and not move to the US. In order to get a B2 visa, they need to demonstrate that they do not have immigrant intent, and it will be hard to do that if you guys plan to move to the US.

    If you plan to move to the US with her, the proper way is to petition her to immigrate (i.e. become a US permanent resident) with I-130. When she enters the US with her immigrant visa, she will immediately become a US permanent resident and then also immediately become a US citizen, as a permanent resident under 18 living in the US with a US citizen parent. An Affidavit of Support will not be needed for her immigration as she will become a US citizen upon entry, so she can file I-864W. The whole process will still cost a lot of money (at least $1000).

    I am not sure whether you will be able to get an immigrant visa for her under the current custody arrangements.

    This is my personal opinion and is not to be construed as legal advice.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Bellisima View Post
      Hi. On September, 2017 I acquired US Citizenship through my father, who is deceased. I have always lived in Venezuela. I want to move to the US with my daughter. I know that she can acquire US citizenship through the N600k form. But my case has the following issues:

      - In the Part 3, Item 11 of the N600k form, it requests a ?Certificate of Citizenship number?. I have never had a certificate of citizenship, only my US passport. Must I have to request this Certificate? Or leave this item blank?
      - I have not a SSN. Thus, I have never declared US taxes. Also, I do not overpass the poverty line right now. Does this represent a limitation in order to obtain a B-2 visa for my child to attend to the interview? Does this interview can be held at the US Embassy en Venezuela? It would be great if we could attend to the embassy right here.
      - I?m divorced. The divorce document states that ?we have agreed that the mother will exercise the care and custody in the same way that she has been exercising at the moment of birth of our minor daughter?. Will this be enough as a proof of legal and physical custody of my daughter? I also have a broad power document granted by her father, which allows me to make any tramit on her behalf (this document was granted to me two years ago).
      - The fee amount of USD $ 1,170.00 is, in the country where I live in, literally a LOT of money. In case that they need more information, or some information that I send is wrong, or the application is rejected, do they charge this fee?
      Hello,

      I think this brochure might be of interest to you. "I am a US citizen. How do I help my relative become a permanent resident?" https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/...urces/A1en.pdf It explains nicely the process of filing the I-130; Petition for Alien relative. I think this would be a good option for you for several reasons. While the whole process may cost just about the same as the N-600K, you would not have to pay for it all at once.
      You would first pay for the I-130. That would take a good 6 months to 9 months to be approved; maybe even a year. Thus, you would have some time to replenish your funds and prepare for the upcoming expenses; such as,
      - the immigrant visa application fee $325 (I think)
      - the immigrant fee $220
      - medical exam (here is a link you will find helpful https://travel.state.gov/content/tri...amination.html) *the cost will vary. Vaccinations are a big portion of the medical report. Thus, the more records that you can gather, the better. That way the physician will just take the information from your records and certify it on the medical report.*

      The immigrant fee is the last fee you have to pay for. While USCIS strongly encourages you to pay the USCIS Immigrant Fee after you pick up your immigrant visa from the Department of State and before you depart for the United States, you do not have to. You may also pay the fee after you arrive in the United States. If you arrive in the United States and haven?t yet paid the USCIS Immigrant Fee, USCIS will send you a notice requesting payment with instructions on paying your fee. You will not receive your Green Card until you have paid the USCIS Immigrant Fee.
      This link has good information on the USCIS immigrant fee. https://www.uscis.gov/file-online/uscis-immigrant-fee Upon arrival in the US, your daughter will get a I-551 stamp on her passport and that is proof of legal permanent residence. It is only valid for 1 year.

      In regards to legal custody, you would have to inquire at the embassy or nearest consulate since your daughter's visa petition will be processed via consular processing. I am sure that the consular officer will be most familiar with documents issued by Venezuelan courts. I will say this. The department of state is a lot more flexible than USCIS. Since you will be doing most of this through the embassy, you will be dealing with the department of state, and they will be the ones looking through the legal custody documents.

      Then, once your daughter arrives and automatically becomes a US citizen, you can apply for a US passport for her. It's less expensive than a certificate of citizenship/naturalization and the department of state is just more

      All the best!

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