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    Hello all,

    My fiancée and I are engaged to be married on December 19th, 2015, and we have a venue booked and everything, so it's too late to back out of the date or location (which is in British Columbia). She is Canadian, and I am a US Citizen. She is wanting to immigrate to the US, and we don't want to have to wait for her to be able to come over. The K1 Visa allows us her to immediately move to the US after getting married (before actually, which is fine), but it doesn't allow the marriage to occur outside of the US. And other Visas look like they can't even be applied for until AFTER we get married, which would leave her outside of the US for months or longer, right?

    So, in essence, we want to find a way that would allow for all of the following conditions to be met:

    1. Have us hold a wedding ceremony on December 19th, 2015, in Canada. (Does not have to be legally binding if it allows things to flow more smoothly)

    2. Have her be able to move to the United States either before or immediately after the marriage.

    So I have already done some research, and I've found a couple of ideas out there that may or may not work.

    1. First hold a religious, non-legally binding marriage CEREMONY, and then cross over the border (via a K1 Visa) and get married legally. However, I have heard issues with those on K1 Visas getting denied entry even just because of a wedding ceremony that had no legal documents attached to it.

    2. Move to the US (via a K1 Visa), get legally married here, then go back to Canada to have a ceremony. However, how can she leave the US if the K1 doesn't allow her to leave until the AOS or an AP is acquired? In our case, we don't want to have to have her live in the US for 2+ months before she can leave again (and we might not even have the K1 ready that early anyway to even afford two extra months to have her sit in the US to get an AP). We don't want our legal and relgiious aspects of our wedding to be so far apart anyway.

    I'm guessing the 2nd option here is the more likely option to have a chance at being successful. I read the following, which MIGHT make us first getting legally married in the US and then having the wedding ceremony in Canada possible:

    "Question:
    I’m in the U.S. on a K-1 fiance visa, which I’ve read is good for only one entry into the United States. But to get ready for the wedding, a friend of mine wants to take me shopping in Toronto, Canada. Someone told me that that’s okay, that I can come back again based on my fiance visa. Is that true?
    Answer:
    For once, the rumors are true: Although the K-1 visa is single entry, its holder can take advantage of a concept called “automatic revalidation.” That means that you can take a short trip – of up to 30 days -- to either Canada or Mexico, without having to give up your I-94 when you leave.
    But you’ll definitely need to take a copy of your Form I-94, as well as your passport. (For extra safety, make copies of both and leave them with a friend in the U.S.) So long as you are within the time limit on the I-94 when you ask to come back, and haven’t become inadmissible to the U.S., you should be allowed reentry for the balance of the time remaining on your I-94.
    This possibility comes from the U.S. Code of Federal Regulations, at 22 C.F.R. Section 41.112.
    Any time you leave the U.S., however, you are taking a risk. A U.S. border official could be unfamiliar with this provision of the law, or not believe that you’re still planning to get married, or could decide that you have become inadmissible. Consult an experienced immigration attorney for a personal analysis.
    Also, you didn’t mention which country you are from, but if it’s among those that the U.S. considers to be “state sponsors of terrorism,” you will be ineligible for automatic visa revalidation. As of early 2014, that list included Cuba, Iran, Syria, and Sudan."

    So would that allow my fiancée and I to get legally married in the US, have the ceremony in Canada, then return to the US within 30 days? Although the sentence, "A U.S. border official could be unfamiliar with this provision of the law, or not believe that you’re still planning to get married, or could decide that you have become inadmissible," makes it sound like this provision is only allowable before the K1 visa holder get married.

    I've also considered the immigrant visa, but I would only want to consider it if she were to be able to move into the US immediately after getting married to me. I'm not sure how, but maybe there is some sort of provision or something.

    What do you guys think?

  • #2
    Guitarlifter,

    You're overanalyzing.

    You have three choices:

    1. Submit and process a K1 visa application in the U.S., and expect your gal to have her visa interview in about 7 months, then come to the U.S.
    2. Marry in Canada and submit an I-130 spousal immigrant visa application, and expect your gal to get her visa in about 10 months.
    3. Marry in the U.S. without expressing any intent in advance, then proceed with I-130 and I-485 combined submittal and expect Green Card in about 6 months without leaving the U.S.

    Your other scenarios are pretty much "pie in the sky" and leave you open to misinterpretation of marital status by USCIS

    Your citation at bottom regarding reentry to the U.S. a second time with a k1 visa may describe a precedent, but it's not worth the risk. A K1 visa is a one-entry visa and shouldn't be tested by a trip back across the border to Canada or Mexico without an Advance Parole.

    --Ray B

    Originally posted by guitarlifter View Post
    Hello all,

    My fiancée and I are engaged to be married on December 19th, 2015, and we have a venue booked and everything, so it's too late to back out of the date or location (which is in British Columbia). She is Canadian, and I am a US Citizen. She is wanting to immigrate to the US, and we don't want to have to wait for her to be able to come over. The K1 Visa allows us her to immediately move to the US after getting married (before actually, which is fine), but it doesn't allow the marriage to occur outside of the US. And other Visas look like they can't even be applied for until AFTER we get married, which would leave her outside of the US for months or longer, right?

    So, in essence, we want to find a way that would allow for all of the following conditions to be met:

    1. Have us hold a wedding ceremony on December 19th, 2015, in Canada. (Does not have to be legally binding if it allows things to flow more smoothly)

    2. Have her be able to move to the United States either before or immediately after the marriage.

    So I have already done some research, and I've found a couple of ideas out there that may or may not work.

    1. First hold a religious, non-legally binding marriage CEREMONY, and then cross over the border (via a K1 Visa) and get married legally. However, I have heard issues with those on K1 Visas getting denied entry even just because of a wedding ceremony that had no legal documents attached to it.

    2. Move to the US (via a K1 Visa), get legally married here, then go back to Canada to have a ceremony. However, how can she leave the US if the K1 doesn't allow her to leave until the AOS or an AP is acquired? In our case, we don't want to have to have her live in the US for 2+ months before she can leave again (and we might not even have the K1 ready that early anyway to even afford two extra months to have her sit in the US to get an AP). We don't want our legal and relgiious aspects of our wedding to be so far apart anyway.

    I'm guessing the 2nd option here is the more likely option to have a chance at being successful. I read the following, which MIGHT make us first getting legally married in the US and then having the wedding ceremony in Canada possible:

    "Question:
    I’m in the U.S. on a K-1 fiance visa, which I’ve read is good for only one entry into the United States. But to get ready for the wedding, a friend of mine wants to take me shopping in Toronto, Canada. Someone told me that that’s okay, that I can come back again based on my fiance visa. Is that true?
    Answer:
    For once, the rumors are true: Although the K-1 visa is single entry, its holder can take advantage of a concept called “automatic revalidation.” That means that you can take a short trip – of up to 30 days -- to either Canada or Mexico, without having to give up your I-94 when you leave.
    But you’ll definitely need to take a copy of your Form I-94, as well as your passport. (For extra safety, make copies of both and leave them with a friend in the U.S.) So long as you are within the time limit on the I-94 when you ask to come back, and haven’t become inadmissible to the U.S., you should be allowed reentry for the balance of the time remaining on your I-94.
    This possibility comes from the U.S. Code of Federal Regulations, at 22 C.F.R. Section 41.112.
    Any time you leave the U.S., however, you are taking a risk. A U.S. border official could be unfamiliar with this provision of the law, or not believe that you’re still planning to get married, or could decide that you have become inadmissible. Consult an experienced immigration attorney for a personal analysis.
    Also, you didn’t mention which country you are from, but if it’s among those that the U.S. considers to be “state sponsors of terrorism,” you will be ineligible for automatic visa revalidation. As of early 2014, that list included Cuba, Iran, Syria, and Sudan."

    So would that allow my fiancée and I to get legally married in the US, have the ceremony in Canada, then return to the US within 30 days? Although the sentence, "A U.S. border official could be unfamiliar with this provision of the law, or not believe that you’re still planning to get married, or could decide that you have become inadmissible," makes it sound like this provision is only allowable before the K1 visa holder get married.

    I've also considered the immigrant visa, but I would only want to consider it if she were to be able to move into the US immediately after getting married to me. I'm not sure how, but maybe there is some sort of provision or something.

    What do you guys think?

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    • #3
      Hi friends. My husband is a U.S citizen. We got married nearly 2 month ago. Now we want to apply for K3 visa. Would you please tell me how long it takes to process K3 ?

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      • #4
        K3 visas are not being routinely processed by USCIS anymore. You will be applying for a CR-1 immigrant visa. Processing time, from paperwork submittal to interview, will be 9-11 months.

        --Ray B

        Originally posted by shila View Post
        Hi friends. My husband is a U.S citizen. We got married nearly 2 month ago. Now we want to apply for K3 visa. Would you please tell me how long it takes to process K3 ?

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        • #5
          Marriage visa

          Hi friends. My husband wants to apply for the IR1 (Marriage) visa. I would be very very grateful if you could tell me what the first step is?
          Thanks very very much.

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          • #6
            Your husband will need to submit form I-130 with the $420 fee and supporting documents to USCIS. Go to: http://www.uscis.gov/i-130 for more specific information about the form and submittal process.

            --Ray B

            QUOTE=shila;398777]Hi friends. My husband wants to apply for the IR1 (Marriage) visa. I would be very very grateful if you could tell me what the first step is?
            Thanks very very much.[/QUOTE]

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            • #7
              U.S. citizen but married outside U.S.

              Hi rayB,

              Seems you got a lot of knowledge on immigration law.
              Here is my situation,
              I am a U.S. citizen but work in Taiwan since 2004 and married my wife in Taiwan on 2008.
              I have been working there since 2004 until now so no need to apply U.S. Visa for my wife because we have no need to travel to U.S.
              I will transfer back to U.S. to work now and want to apply U.S. green card for my wife.
              I know if I submit I-130 in Taiwan then I have to wait until my wife get approved then she can come to U.S. that probably is one year later.
              Some people tell me she can use Visa Waiver Program to travel to U.S. then submit I-130 after arrived in U.S.
              Is there any problem on doing so?
              I mean any danger or illegal on use Visa Waiver Program then submit I-130 after arrived in U.S.
              Very appreciate your help or anyone can give me answer.
              Thanks.

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