Visitor Visa for brother+ family + mom how to show ties back in India

[manig]

Hello,

I am sponsoring my brother and his family to visit us. My mom stays with him. (Father passed away) I have sent papers for all of them. Our problem is how to show ties back in India.

His daughters are 16 and 9 years old. My brothers wife works and my mom is retired.

Can they go together for visa? Or should my borthers family go first and then my mom? We have home there and both my bro and his wife are getting employment letters from their offices. Is that enough?
Need urgent help.

Manig

[smohanty]

Well, an acquaintaince of my family in India recently applied together (woman, spouse and 14 year old son) for a visitors visa to visit the woman's brother in the US and they were rejected without any documents being looked at.

Well, so you do have a big problem. And there is no good answer to your question because if everyone is applying for a visa together then they do not have any ties to show that are strong enough for them to want to return to India.

In the absence of strong social ties, merely showing economic ties (employment letter, bank balance, property) is just not enough because once the visa is granted the family members can leave their job, sell their property and get to the US and not go back to India.

So if everyone applies together they may all be rejected together.

Your mother may get a visa if she applies by herself if she can prove that she lives with her son and grandchildren.

Your brother may get a visa if he applies by himself if he can show that his wife and children are not joining him.

The 9-year old may be able to get a visa if she applies by herself because it may be assumed that she will not be able to stay back permanently in the US without her parents.

It would be almost impossible for the 16 year old will get a visitor's visa even if she applies by herself. She will definitely be seen as a potential immigrant who will stay back in the US to study. A letter from the 16 year old's school will not help either because she is grown up enough to stay back in the US without her parents and study/work here.

So it is highly unlikely that your brother's whole family will be granted visas if they apply together (especially not the 16 year old).

Still, if you decide to try and they do some how manage to get visas please do give us all the details on how you achieved the next to impossible.

[manig]

smohanty,

I think I missed mentioning that my mom had been to US before.

They have already paid the visa fees and within a day or two will book interview appointment.

We are planning to move back to india for good in next 2 years. Hence, calling all my family to visit us. If we tell this to consulate will this help?

My SIL and her family came and visited us 5 years back. Their son was 11 and daughter was 7 years old then. The entire family got visa. husband - wife and 2 kids applied together got visa together.

I understand with my 16 year old niece it will be an issue.

We have already paid 25K as visa fee. Will keep you posted. Now that we have nothign to lose we will see how things take shape.

Would you suggest my niece should not join them for visa
considering the future ooprtunities? Will this reject affect her future chances?

All input appreciate..

Manig

[smohanty]

>> We are planning to move back to india for good in next 2 years. Hence, calling all my family to visit us. If we tell this to consulate will this help?

I don't think there is any point telling the VO that because the fact is it is still a "plan". You have already been in the US for over 5 years and will be staying for the next few years. Why should the VO believe that you will now return unless you can offer concrete proof of your return?

>> My SIL and her family came and visited us 5 years back. Their son was 11 and daughter was 7 years old then. The entire family got visa. husband - wife and 2 kids applied together got visa together. I understand with my 16 year old niece it will be an issue.

At 11 and 7 those kids were still young and dependent on their parents. Teenagers are a whole different case.

>> We have already paid 25K as visa fee. Will keep you posted. Now that we have nothign to lose we will see how things take shape.

Please let us know what happened in detail, regardless of the outcome.

>> Would you suggest my niece should not join them for visa
considering the future ooprtunities? Will this reject affect her future chances?

That is up to your family! My opinion is that since the fees have already been paid let her try her luck. The thing is if she stays back by herself then the VO could ask her parents who will take care of her in their absence and why they are leaving her in India and travelling without her.

[manig]

Hi,

Just an update. My brother's family got visa. We do not know type of visa though. He has 2 daughters (16 and 9) and his wife works as well.

Here is what happened at consulate. Whole family appreared for interview together.

VO (to my 16 Yr old niece ) : What do you do?
16 yr old: I appreaed for my 10th exam. Now I will go to college.

VO: Pardon ?
16 yo: I will go for 11th next year.

VO: Which school do you go to?
16yo: so and so.

VO: is it private school?
16yo: yes

vo: (To my 9 year old niece): So you work? Where do you work?(Smiling)
My brother translated the question to her. She nodes her head saying no.

vo: so what do you do?
9yo:4th standard

vo:which school do you go to?
9yo: so and so.

VO: So you go to same school as your sister does?
9yo:yes

vo:who runs this school
bro:its run by so and so organization

voto my SIL) who stays with you?
SIL: my mother in law stays with us.

vo: what about your FIL?
SIL: He passed away

Vo:what do you do?
SIL: I work for so and so college

VO: are you professor or lecturer?
sil:no I am technical assistant.

vo:how long you have been working there?
SIL: since last 17 years

voto my bro) where are you going?
Bro: San Fr.. I mean blah blah..

He started with wrong city then corrected himself.

VO:who is there?
Bro: my sister

Vo: what do you do?
bro: Central govt. as so and so

vo: how long do you plan to stay there?
bro: 6 weeks

vo:six weeks thats all?
bro: yes.

vo: ok you got visa. you will get passport in couple of days. Enjoy your stay in US.

All: Thaks.

VO was old happy simling person.

Now that we have separated my mom from my bro's family for interview - we are not geting any interview dates for her. The web site says wait is for 10 days but nothing seems to be open for 10 days from today. Any ideas?

-Manig